If AJ gets stopped by Ruiz AGAIN its game over for him

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  1. GK BOX

    GK BOX Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Here's some facts
    AJ is worth 60 million dollars!
    If he gets stopped again, his draw will plummet dramatically. HIs British fans, who once believed him to be the unstoppable force of boxing, will quickly abandon the hype train.
    Truth be told he was never "worth" as much as he was paid for his fights given his accomplishments in the ring.
    That Olympic Gold Medal, the looks and physique, the 15-0 15 KO run, the Charles Martin stoppage, got him to become a draw far larger than any other boxer with the same in ring accomplishments.
    When the bubble pops, the bigger the bubble, the louder the pop.
    Ruiz can POP the bubble. I'm sure AJs fanbase has taken a hit by getting obliterated by Ruiz the first time.
    If AJ gets stopped again, its David Price all over again, of course on a much bigger scale.
    With the stoppage loss, gone are the PPVs and the millions that come along with it. Gone also are selling out 20k person arenas in hours. He will become another heavyweight fighting for a million or 2 a purse.
    WHEN YOU ARE WORTH 60 MILLION, DO YOU PUT YOUR BRAINS ON THE LINE FOR 1 MILLION OR 2?
    The answer is a resounding NO!
    And dont compare AJ to Wlad. When Wlad got crushed by Corrie Sanders I doubt he even made a million for that fight.

    As for the fight itself, I dont know who will win. But if AJ gets stopped again, say byebye to Joshua as a boxer.
     
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  2. GALVATRON

    GALVATRON Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    The only fact needed is you don't plummet from 85/100 million worth a fight over 2 losses and particular against the same guy some of the best fights were 2 and 3 matches . You don't fall from grace when you are in an AJ position over night , not in reality anyway. His stock will only grow if its a good fight again.

    For AJ to plummet he would have to not only lose numerous times but do something really dumb outside the ring negative like rob a bank or beat up a hooker or something. Wlad wasn't the face of boxing when he fought Sanders,that nonsense to suggest AJ will plummet based on a fight that wasn't even competitive and a somewhat unknown then Wlad globally ,come'on that's all you got ? lol
     
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  3. Simon Head

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    No definitely not, would still love to see him fight Fury, Wilder and Pulev.

    No idea why people have this fetish of the unbeatable fighter, there never was really one, and never will be.

    All I want to see is great fights, and boxers giving it there best shots, and taken on the toughest challenges regardless of if they can win, or not.
     
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  4. GK BOX

    GK BOX Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    AJ was selling crazy PPVs and live gates fighting guys like Takam man. If he gets stopped again how big of a purse would he have fighting a 10-15 ranked HW?
     
  5. theanatolian

    theanatolian Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He’ll always be intriguing to us die-hard fans. But for casuals(who are actually the ones to bring big money), It won’t be easy to rebuild from back to back losses when you turn out to be poor men’s Wlad Klitschko/Lewis after being hyped as the 6’6 combination of Mike Tyson and George Foreman.
     
  6. Mr Icaman

    Mr Icaman 32-0 WBC Champ, Ring + Lineal HW Champ Full Member

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    He might not be the $$$ juggernaut he once was but he will still be earning as much coin as anybody else just by going back and KO'ing bums..

    There are so many big money fights for him in the UK alone that he can still earn more than Wilder ever will..

    Plus Ruiz wont be hanging on to those belts very long (lets not forget he is below Parker level) so he can easily get them back off some one else will less of a chin...
     
  7. GK BOX

    GK BOX Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This is all true
    However, the question that I posed was more motivation based
    Do you risk getting your brains scrambled for less money when you have already made more than 99 percent of the opposition?
    Look at GGG man, all those years with a net worth of 30 million. AJ has already doubled that with only 23 fights, two of which he took damage
     
  8. Mr Icaman

    Mr Icaman 32-0 WBC Champ, Ring + Lineal HW Champ Full Member

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    Only he knows the answer to that, I don't think there are too many people who can scramble his brains like Ruiz did so he is can pretty much pick his mark for safe fights.

    Plus I can see Wlad v2.0 going forward which might not be pretty but it is bloody effective, especially against smaller men..

    Wlad could have quite easily hang them up but didn't and he went on to dominate for a decade..
     
  9. GK BOX

    GK BOX Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I agree
    If AJ had never made the insane amount of money in only 23 fights I wouldnt have made this post
    Its the enormous earnings that put his career into a different league
     
  10. notjustacasual

    notjustacasual Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    His motivation will be the biggest question.

    Financially there is no way he starts drawing only 1 or 2 mil a fight if he loses again, does he take a hit, yes but you are talking he may only make 8 -10 mil for his next fight or two.

    His next fight wpuld be something like a homecoming vs Chisora at the O2 which would still sell 20k tickets and quite a lot of ppv's.

    It'll be if he decides he wants to attempt a rebuild or if he Is satisfied.
     
  11. speedbaggage

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    Nah. He can still have meaningful fights and make a lot of money.

    If AJ loses another then Wilder might find his balls and take him on.

    He can carry on, he'll just need a different mindset and needs to mature a bit mentally.
     
  12. PolicemanPrawn

    PolicemanPrawn Member Full Member

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    No, I think even if he loses against Ruiz he can still be a top fighter. I don't think he'll retire if he loses again. He will need to make changes, such as changing his trainer, which a second loss will probably prompt him to do. If he makes the necessary technical and training adjustments, he can still have a good career.
     
  13. ertwin

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    Of course you do in todays world online world. The rise and fall to/from fame is faster then ever. Look at mcgregor and roussey.
     
  14. BoJangles

    BoJangles Boxing Addict Full Member

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    After AJ gets stopped again... the AJ Hype Train can return to UK to Perform to the Choir in his Safe Space and fight Chisora & David Price for $20 million a pop to packed stadiums, noone outside of the UK will care or pay for it.
     
  15. GALVATRON

    GALVATRON Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    McGregor hasn't lost popularity hes still the most marketable fighter in MMA so I have no idea what you are talking about. If he were to fight Pacman we all know how that goes. lol
     
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