If Ali was boxing today hed barely scrape the top ten

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  1. frankenfrank

    frankenfrank Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Ali had 2 thumb Terrell in order 2 win, and still failed 2 stop him, and Terrell was stopped by d glass jawed Cleveland Williams, and Wepner was not called d Bayonne Bleeder 4 nothing.
    Those fighters were not as durable and dangerous as Pulev and Fury.
    Wilder is a fraud zow.
    Povetkin & Ruiz wud hev probably dropt e very competitive decision 2 Ali,
    whereas Leapai wud hev faund sam wei 2 luz.

    Dis iz d ting, sam of dem wud not hev nided 2, it iz Ali wum wud hev nided futwork 2 get klows 2 Wlad, only 2 get klincht or pancht wail kaming in.

    Bat den hi probably lakt 2 egs 2 iven tray, so d pu$sy @$$ ritardo wud hev spent d fait raning 4 hiz laif on d autsaid wail occasionally being scratched by a jab or stung by a punch, and even more rarely managing 2 just scratch hiz oponent wiz hiz jab.
     
  2. True_Hero

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    But todays boxers aren't slow or unskilled. That's just crazy talk.

    Wlad isn't the fastest but you can't call him a lumbering sloth like most of Ali's opponents. He's very skilled and would be great in any boxing division with his awkward style.

    Ditto Vitali.

    Fury is a very talented boxer when he's in the right frame at mind, able to change his style at will. Like in his match against Cunningham where boxing didn't work, he shifted his style and started roughhousing and bullying him to get the win. The exact same thing would happen against Ali. He couldn't outbox Ali, but he'd bully him around and eventually get the KO on sheer size. Plus Fury is very fast for such a big man. KO win.

    Valuev, yeah he's slow. But his size means he'd dominate Ali. Ali is just too small to beat him. KO win.

    Haye, he's a fast fighter with lot's of power and an awkward style. He doesn't get hit much and will just pick Ali off with big, quick shots. KO win for Haye.

    Wilder is unskilled but you can't deny the guy has speed. I don't like him but he can hit hard and fast. Again, his size means Ali would struggle with him and his power would shatter Ali who would basically be a cruiserweight today.


    Face it, with today's much larger fighters, Ali would be on par with Adamek or Cunningham. A top competitor who can hold his own in the division but just can't compete with the sheer size advantage the likes of Fury, the Klitschko's and Valuev have.

    To say Ali would knocked all of those guys out is ridiculous. The guy has only a 60% KO record. He was a slightly above average puncher at best. He couldn't finish off Earnie Shavers who, let's face it, had a shaky jaw... I'd hesitate to say glass. But it was only a botch above.
     
  3. Farmboxer

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    Ali was out of his feet against very small Henry Cooper. Angelo Dundee cut Ali's glove to give him time to recover or he would have been knocked out by the very small Henry Cooper. Ali would probably have to fight at cruiserweight today...............but he had talent, esp. before his long layoff............
     
  4. True_Hero

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    Nobodies denying he didn't have talent.

    I'm just pointing out that he couldn't cope in today's heavyweight era. Hence, why people calling him the #1 heavyweight of all is ridiculous. How can he be #1 when even in today's era there are/have been eight boxers who could definitely put the beating on him and a few more who'd give him problems (such as Tony Thompson).
     
  5. BlizzyBlizz

    BlizzyBlizz Loyal Member Full Member

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    Ali was 6'3 210-215 lbs in his prime.

    We are talking about both at their best. Ali would box circles around Wlad. Wlad couldn't even deal with Sanders hand speed. Wlad couldn't catch Haye but he's supposed to catch Ali? Get real lmao... You have to give credit before you can take it away. Size didn't help Lennox ko Holy or help Wlad ko Ibragimov.
     
  6. DrBanzai

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    Ali was 6'2'' at best and 205 in his prime, the 6'6'' 245lb Wlad would murder him in 6 or less with just his jab.

    Sanders had massive power and was tall, Ali had no power and is much shorter then Wlad.

    Midget cooper destroyed cheating Ali, shorter midget Joe Frazier did even worse to Ali.
     
  7. BlizzyBlizz

    BlizzyBlizz Loyal Member Full Member

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    Wlad can't deal with speed. He couldn't even catch Haye. Ali's firepower compared to Haye is like a man fighting a new born.
     
  8. DrBanzai

    DrBanzai Active Member Full Member

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    Glass jaw Ken Norton beat Ali 3x
     
  9. BlizzyBlizz

    BlizzyBlizz Loyal Member Full Member

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    Ali loses decisions. Wlad gets ktfo.
     
  10. DrBanzai

    DrBanzai Active Member Full Member

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    Ali has brain damage, Wlad is a PHD and quick mentally as ever.
     
  11. 9522

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    100 posts on this topic :rofl
     
  12. Azzer85

    Azzer85 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Ali is also the greatest of all time, wlad isn't
    :hey
     
  13. True_Hero

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    Who won the fight?

    That's right, Wlad did. And pretty comfortably too. Same would happen with Ali.

    Where does this myth that Ali had lot's of power come from? To compare Ali's power (KO percentage, 60%) with Haye's (KO percentage 86%) is ridiculous.

    Ali wasn't feather-fisted but he was hardly a KO artist. He had slightly above average power. Fact.

    If he boxed in today's era, that KO percentage would be even less since Ali would basically be a cruiserweight and fighting bigger and tougher guys.
     
  14. mahanga

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    Ice is a shocking Drug.!!!!l
     
  15. madballster

    madballster Loyal Member Full Member

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    Ali never fought a modern day SHW. Foreman wouldn't be considered a big HW today and Ali went life and death with him and refused to rematch him.