If Andre Ward fought Calzaghe's resume would he had been 46 - 0

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  1. Jordan_Davies

    Jordan_Davies Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It would be close and ugly fight but I think he would eek it out, people are over rating Andre Ward like hell, to be honest I wouldnt be surprised if points were deducted all over the place and the fight ended in a DQ or no contest
     
  2. BoppaZoo

    BoppaZoo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    They way Ward fans talk in here.

    He would KO Wlad Klitschko right now.

    Hell why not a Prime Mike Tyson as well.

    Ward has been fighting in a real real weak ass Era of 168 to 175 thats a Known fact yet you want me to believe he would school all these guys.

    Why is it maybe because American and were on a American website.

    Talk to me in another 5 or 6 years then we will discuss this subject because of right now

    Carl Froch, Lucien Bute, Arthur Abraham, Mikkel Kessler, (47) Bernard Hopkins, Chad Dawson and Tavoris Cloud is as good as it gets out there at those weights at the moment. **** Hopkins is ranked 1 at 175 some 5 years since he was ranked number 1 there when he fought Joe Calzaghe. 5 years and at age 47 he is ranked 1st at 175 still that show you how good this Era is at those weights.

    Yet from 2002 to 2008 why Joe was on top you had fighters in his Era and around his weight class like
    Sven Ottke, Markus Beyer, Danny Green, Roy Jones Jr, Bernard Hopkins, Anthony Mundine, Glen Johnson, Antonio Tarver, Jeff Lacy, Byron Mitchell, Clinton Woods, Robin Reid, Thomas Adamek, Paul Briggs, Antwun Echols, Montell Griffin, Charles Brewer.

    **** Im soory but if most those guys were around today in there Prime like back then. They would be schooling these fools.

    I mean Carl Froch the best Opponent out there to Ward at the moment won a MD against a 42 year old and well past it Glen Johnson.

    That fight takes place 6 years earlier and Froch gets dismantled.
    Prime guys like Adamek and Briggs would have eaten guys like Carl Froch and Kelly Pavlik for ****ing Breakfast.

    Ward is unfortunate he has the skills but is fighting in a Era with not much talent.
     
  3. Imperial1

    Imperial1 VIP Member Full Member

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    46-0 Easy ! I mean would Ward also cherry pick for 10 yrs ? If so then it be no problem for SOG !
     
  4. BoppaZoo

    BoppaZoo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I remember being here and hearing the same thing about Jermain Taylor until one day. BANG he was never the same.

    Its way to early and all this hype reminds me so much of the hype Taylor and Pavlik got when they were coming on.

    We will see in 3 to 5 years or so were he is at.
     
  5. Imperial1

    Imperial1 VIP Member Full Member

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    Ward and Taylor are nothing alike ..Ward can box and in side and out ,and doesn't have the stamina issues JT had ..

    Only time will tell how well Ward's career will end up !
     
  6. platnumpapi

    platnumpapi Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    fighting the same guys the same time joe fought them, andre ward would win all of those fights. but i cant say joe would beat everyone andre beat at the time he fought them.
     
  7. CASH_718

    CASH_718 "You ****ed Healy?" Full Member

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    I was here to and you are lying. After the first Hopkins fight Taylor got more hate then love. Then the Winky robbery and the close fight with Spinks..... When exactly did Taylor get this hype? After he beat Edauard?

    And you got balls to talk because the most overrated fighter on this forum is in your avatar.
     
  8. CASH_718

    CASH_718 "You ****ed Healy?" Full Member

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    Jan 07? Ahahaha Taylor was getting no hype at all in 07. Keep talking out of your ass.
     
  9. HerolGee

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    you could well ask, could Joe calzaghe have fought Andre Wards level of opposition(tough opponent chains for major titles) for his entire wbo reign.

    On the evidence Joe left uis, he could only sustain wins over top opponents for two fights Kessler and Reid, one close and the other an arguable loss, so the evidence is that Joe wouls struggle 'doing a Ward' for his career. Joe needed **** opponents to keep winning, and there is no evidence at all to suggest that he could keep winning against top opponents concurrently. Not only that but he deliberately immediately vacated titles to avoid challenges, again a very 'unWard' thing to do.

    Whereas Ward has been comfortable with back to back tough opponents.
     
  10. BoppaZoo

    BoppaZoo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    They were after he beat Hopkins twice and drew with Wright he got some hype from General fans.

    My point was is its to early even you know this Cash.

    He did get criticism as well but most that came from Hopkin fans.

    I take me hat off to Taylor though because those 2 wins against B-Hop are better than any other Ward will ever get.:deal
     
  11. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    another question about Joe, is he capable of defending a unifed title repeatedly like Ward. On the evidence, he cant, he can only bitpart with titles and then has to vacate in order to keep his losses at zero.
     
  12. general zod

    general zod World Champion Full Member

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    That depends on the overall level of competition faced.

    http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Boxing:+Joe+may+face+yet+another+foe.-a089417324

    Calzaghe missed every southpaw from smw-lhw
    If you make a point of avoiding styles you dont like then there is a good chance you will retire undefeated
     
  13. Momus

    Momus Boxing Addict Full Member

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    While Kessler wasn't at his best against Ward, there wasn't anything in their fight to suggest that a peak Kessler would make it a close fight.

    Making the fight rough? In Ward's face all night? Have you ever seen Eubank fight?? How many slick boxers did Eubank wear down through constant pressure and force a stoppage? Sherry is the closest I can think of, which shows how much of a stretch it is considering it was a tech decision and Sherry isn't even close to Ward's league.

    Taking into account that this is a past-prime (and post-Watson) Eubank that we're talking about, the notion that he is going to turn into some kind of high punch output pressure fighter and stop Ward is ridiculous. There's a slim chance that he lands a big right, but the much more likely scenario is that Ward crowds Eubank in close and outboxes him from range.

    Eubank is massively over-rated in some quarters. He was inconsistent throughout his career, and was often troubled by fringe world class boxers like Schommer, Close and Sherry. Apart from Ward's unproven chin, there isn't really anything pointing towards any version of Eubank being too much for Ward.
     
  14. slicksouthpaw16

    slicksouthpaw16 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Ward would without question beat the Hopkins of 08. Taylor did it, why wouldn't Ward?
     
  15. slicksouthpaw16

    slicksouthpaw16 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Lol at the 14 people that voted Kessler when Ward already beat him. I'll just laugh again if you say that he was past his best. He beat Froch (who i consider the second best super middleweight) in his very next fight.