If Anthony Joshua beats Parker he becomes top 5 british ATG in under 25 fights

Who were these ten opponents, Ward toyed with him Taylor was crap v Froch Groves was much better against Eubank than when h e faced Froch who struggled like mad Kessler wasn`t the same fighter that gave Calzaghe problems and the others were nobody`s.

 

Right, but Wlad was 41, coming off the longest lay off of his career and a loss. It's a very good win but it needs context. Parker has shown to be the same level as Takam and Ruiz Jr, so no I don't think he would. He didn't really give Hugh Fury any problems.

For clarity, I'm assuming the OP means P4P, not just at HW.

 

Wlad one million percent.

 

Silly thread.
Wins over a 41 year old ex-champion and a standard alphabet belt holder (Parker, who may or may not be very good) aren't making him an ATG.

Britain has produced dozens of great boxers. AJ may one day be up near the top of the bunch but it's going to take more than a win over an old dethroned Klitschko and Parker, with all due respect.

 

Untill the fights over, we have no idea how good Parker is. My thinking at the mo is good, not great. My challenge again for a belt - but could just as easily get found out and lose to everyone else he ever faces. His record at the mo is decent but no real A-list names on it yet. His stock will rise or fall on the manner of performance comparisons to legends or ATG long since retired can only really be done when the facts are in and AJ has plenty of fights left in him at the moment.

 

Buchanan was a excellent fighter, arguably the best Britain has ever produced.
However Duran also boxed Hearns, Hagler, Leonard, Benitez etc etc. Buchanan was his toughest fight at the time but not the best he fought overall.

 

Tyson had on reflection a pretty shitty resume when all said and done and isn't imo a top 10 ATG heavyweight.

Head to head on his night he could beat anyone but over his career I just don't see it.

Also as for Tucker beating both Wilder and Parker I don't agree, I think people are seeing Tucker (who was a very good boxer) with rose tinted glasses.

Prior to Tyson, Tucker had beaten only Douglas as a "name" and perhaps Broad. In between Tyson and Lewis he got a SD over Norris and beat McCall who was nothing more than a "journeyman" at the time.

Already Wilder and Parker have better resumes than what Tucker did.

 

HWs have a longer shelf life than lighter weight fighters . AJ is still a kid and I believe as a HW not yet reached his prime.

The dust should kind be settled on any fighters career before the words ATG should even get muttered.

 

So assuming that Joshua beats Parker and Wilder, his top wins are as follows (in chronological order)

Out of shape Whyte
Old Wlad
Takam
Parker
Wilder

Lewis' top wins in chronological order are:

Ruddock
Slightly past-prime Tucker
Frank Bruno
Past-prime Tommy Morrison
Ray Mercer
Oliver McCall
Andrew Golota
Shannon Briggs
Past-prime Evander Holyfield (twice)
Michael Grant
David Tua
Hasim Rahman
Past-prime / shot Tyson
Vitali Klitschko (albeit on cuts)

To claim that Joshua is only a win against Wilder from surpassing Lennox Lewis as Britain's greatest heavyweight is a foolish claim to make. It is clear that Joshua has a very long way to go until he gets to this level. He simply does not have the resume to be ranked anywhere near Lennox in terms of greatness. Furthermore, on a h2h basis, I believe that a prime Lennox at his very best was a step above Joshua and most definitely would beat him.

 

There's British greats with much tougher resume's than Carl Froch's. There's also bound to be tougher and better ten fight runs.

 

No disrespect whatsoever to Froch, but Jack Kid Berg's 1930 run is on a completely different level to anything Froch achieved.

He beat multiple p4p contenders (if the term had existed back then) within a 12 month period, and established himself for many as the best fighter in the sport.

 

No because he too easy to hit v Groves. George is also harder to beat now, makes less mistakes, Froch had a good jab but didn`t use it enough.

 

No way top 5 if he beats Parker. Jimmy Wilde is in top 3