If Archie Moore was on his best night at heavy….

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by mr. magoo, Feb 10, 2024.


  1. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

    51,468
    25,969
    Jan 3, 2007
    How well would he do against Joe Frazier ?
     
    InMemoryofJakeLamotta likes this.
  2. AwardedSteak863

    AwardedSteak863 Boxing Addict Full Member

    6,081
    11,315
    Aug 16, 2018
    I don't see it. Frazier was so strong and relentless. I could see Archie with his skill hanging in there for a bit but ultimately Frazier's pressure wears Moore out.
     
  3. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

    16,453
    15,635
    Jun 9, 2007
  4. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

    51,468
    25,969
    Jan 3, 2007
    You don’t think he might have done a little more than say Ellis or quarry ?
     
    InMemoryofJakeLamotta likes this.
  5. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

    16,561
    11,992
    Sep 21, 2017
    He does better than Bob Foster, that's for sure (imo). I think Moore could last as long as he did with Marciano. Moore was highly skilled, but due to the styles and Frazier's punching power, I think he eventually gets to Moore and stops him mid to late rounds
     
  6. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

    16,453
    15,635
    Jun 9, 2007
    I think he could have done better than Ellis or Foster. I don't think he could have hung in there the way Quarry did though. Not implying Quarry is better than Moore because he's not but he was better at being a HW
     
    mcvey, richdanahuff and mr. magoo like this.
  7. thistle

    thistle Boxing Junkie

    7,615
    8,147
    Dec 21, 2016
    Not good, he's a L-HW...

    and that is the best realistic place to leave All Fighters, in their Levelled Off Natural Weight Givision, , not Up, not Down!
     
  8. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

    16,561
    11,992
    Sep 21, 2017
    I think the best heavyweight version of Moore would beat Quarry
     
    PRW94 and mr. magoo like this.
  9. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

    16,561
    11,992
    Sep 21, 2017
    Moore was actually pretty good as a heavyweight. He lost to Marciano, Floyd Patterson and when he was almost 50 years old, lost to a young Cassius Clay. Not a bad lot to lose to. Seems he only lost to the best.
     
    mr. magoo and thistle like this.
  10. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

    51,468
    25,969
    Jan 3, 2007
    He DID have a record of 46-4-4-26 at heavyweight or something close to that. Beat a lot of ranked contenders.
     
  11. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

    51,468
    25,969
    Jan 3, 2007
    Moore’s record at heavyweight is better than a lot of men’s who spent their whole career there
     
    Furey, mcvey, Levook and 1 other person like this.
  12. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 VIP Member

    53,322
    45,483
    Apr 27, 2005
    Moore is a decent heavy but it's a bad matchup here.
     
  13. PRW94

    PRW94 Well-Known Member Full Member

    2,201
    3,824
    Nov 26, 2020
    I think Moore would get to Frazier and might even bust him up a bit but the pressure will prove too much by the eighth round or so.
     
  14. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

    49,636
    16,328
    Jul 19, 2004
    More or less how I see it. Best case scenario, I think Archie's skills and smarts might possibly see him off to a good start. But eventually I think he succumbs to the relentless pressure from Smokin' Joe.
     
  15. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

    30,269
    37,229
    Jan 8, 2017
    I don't see Archie lasting past the 6th round tbh.
    He may win those first few rounds, sometimes Joe could take a while to crank up, but once Frazier gets going, it's the beginning of the end.