If benevidez made weight canelo still would've ducked him

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  1. DoubleM

    DoubleM Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    I remember before benevidez missed weight, canelo was saying my goal isn't to unify. Then when benevidez misses weight he fights for his title immediately.

    Benevidez is a huge style mismatch for the ginger. His team, management, and everyone around him knows this. A big, tall, hard hitting volume puncher would make easy work out of ginger.

    Canelo never had any interest in fighting benevidez.

    If benecidez made weight canelo never wludlve fought him
     
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  2. Dorrian_Grey

    Dorrian_Grey It came to me in a dream Full Member

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    Benavidez isn't a style mismatch for Canelo. Sloppy volume punchers with no jab and cement shoes are the type of opponents Canelo has a history of doing incredibly well against. Kirkland, Chavez, and Liam Smith to name a few. And Benavidez isn't a hard hitter if his last fight is anything to go off of.
     
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  3. PernellSweetPea

    PernellSweetPea Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I don't see how people say Canelo is ducking Benevidez. It is just too much a chance and he is too big for the risk when Canelo can fight for millions anyway. But if this were a big fight and Canelo had to fight him, he would fight him and win. I don't think Canelo fears Benavidez.. He didn't fear a much better fighter GGG.
     
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  4. The Real Lance

    The Real Lance Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    WTF? Canelo is too small for Benavidez?? You realize Canelo was already a beltholder at 175? Not fighting your # 1 contender due to ‘too big a risk’ is freakin asinine! That really is an unbelievable statement from ‘a fan’.
     
  5. Jackedup

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    Sloppy? He is number 2 on compubox for accuracy. He has a great jab, top 5 accuracy compubox. Not a hard hitter with 83% KO ratio? You were wrong with basically every statement. Canelo decided he would never fight Benavidez about 6 years ago.
     
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  6. mono

    mono Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Ok, but aside from Plant who he couldn’t knock out even though Cinnabunz did, he has quite the thin resume. I mean sure, he looked real good knocking out Porky, but come on dude.
    You probably also thought Deonkey was top 5 heavy weight all time because he was like 38-0 all knockouts.
     
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  7. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    GGG beat the Ginger fraud TWICE but got screwed if he'd tried he'd have beaten Ginger again but same screwing decision from the vegas judges GGG just took it easy & really played with Ginger taking a nice easy paycheck with no fear of getting hurt
     
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  8. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Clenelo comes in at 178-180

    Benavidez about 185 at 168

    Bivol weighed 183 against Clenelo

    Kovalev said he weighed 180-182 in his two previous fights to facing Clenelo and that he didn't like gaining more than that around that part of his career

    But Loma routinely fighting opponents who are much or way heavier than him at 135 with much or way longer reaches, often much heavier than him than Bivol or Benavidez were/are than Clenelo

    Hell, down at 126 in just his second pro fight he was giving away 11lbs

    And he's fighting them in their backyards or on the road with home judges screwing him over time and time again, not with them in his back pocket

    The hell you playing at Clenelo? :facepalm:


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  9. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    Canelo said same thing After the fight he cried Bivol was too big too strong for me. So Bivol suggested a rematch at 168 for all Gingers trinkets. Ginger said NO!!!!!!!!!! but I'll fight him again at 175 ROFLMAO.At weigh in for the fight the Big Bully Bivol weighed FOUR ounces heavier than Ginger ROFLMAO Bivol took Gingers soul when he beat his ass He had very little gonads before Bivol took them That's why he's got nothing to fight with now
     
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  10. Dorrian_Grey

    Dorrian_Grey It came to me in a dream Full Member

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    His KO ratio is so high because he's fought a load of guys much smaller than him and fought mostly average fighters apart from Plant. If he were a hard hitter he wouldn't need 10-punch combos to put guys down. And his compubox stats are so shiny because a) compubox are corrupt and their stats are untrustworthy, b) his opposition hasn't been anything to write home about, and c) he's always been the much bigger man with longer arms so is almost always in punching range. Canelo was fighting GGG and Jacobs 6 years ago, Benavidez was fighting Ronald Gavril and J'Leon Love 6 years ago. Barely anybody knew who Benny was until he fought Plant and started mentioning Canelo every time he spoke.
     
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  11. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    You answered the question with the very post.

    It's too big a risk. That's why he's ducking him.
     
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  12. bigboxinghippo420

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    thanks mr spreadsheet
     
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  13. PernellSweetPea

    PernellSweetPea Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It is a risk for the same money he can earn fighting guys more his size. My point was that he is not scared of him at all, it is most like the four kings of the 1980s and Mike McCallum. They fought each other so you know they would have fought Mike but they had each other and for the money they would earn to fight him they could earn fighting other guys, so why risk it at that moment. Wait until he is worth the big fight. Those guys had each other to fight and Canelo has had his career pretty much, he is winding down as the four kings were in the late 1980s when Mike came along more. Yes, Mike was the same age pretty much, but he came a little later when they were slipping a little bit-by the time his name got bigger, and this is like Canelo now. He doesn't need him for that money, but I do think he beats Benevidez by late round knockout.
     
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  14. PernellSweetPea

    PernellSweetPea Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Well that debatable, but officially that is not the case. And Canelo fought him three times. I don't think GGG is less of a threat than Benavidez.
     
  15. PernellSweetPea

    PernellSweetPea Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I am not really a Canelo fan, but I recognize a real professional fighter who knows the game at this point. He is not scared of Benavidez, and really I don't see how Benavidez is that hard a puncher. He is a big guy but Beterbiev to me is more a threat. That guy there is a big puncher from what I can see. I would love Betervbev against Benavidez.. Would Benavidez fight Beterbiev?