If Brian Nielsen had 2 go through Ali's opponents

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  1. frankenfrank

    frankenfrank Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The likes of shot Cleveland Williams, old Zora Folley, prime Doug Jones, past prime Floyd Patterson, Jimmy Ellis, Joe Bugner, Henry Cooper, George Chuvalo and Jerry Quarry. How would he have done against them?
     
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    He goes undefeated.
     
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    It depends on how much it would cost to bribe them.

    Nielsen's team bribed Witherspoon, Tubbs and Jeremy Williams to quit. It would depend on how much money was left to bribe the others.
     
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    I watched his fight against Jeremy Williams and 2 times his fight vs Witherspoon.

    He overpowered Williams and I also doubt your claim about Witherspoon, but to a lesser extent.

    Did Nielsen's team also bribe old Larry Holmes not to KO him?
     
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    Saad54 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He would have lost to a great many, maybe all of them. Nielsen beat a few names on his way up, but they were well past it. There is no comparison in ability between a young Ali and a Brian Nielsen working his way up.
     
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    Yeah, I would say Holmes was bribed. I dont think there is any doubt that Williams was bribed, that was a pretty big scandal when it happened. All those guys were bribed just like Emmanuel Augustus was bribed to lay down to Vester.
     
  7. N_ N___

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    I'll take Nielson over Cleveland Williams. Nielson won bronze. You can't be a complete joke and win bronze.
     
  8. Dubblechin

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    Tim Witherspoon stated point blank in his book "Terrible Times" that he took a dive in the Nielsen fight. He said Nielsen's team was paying boxers to take dives. He went there and was told to go down in the fourth round and that's what he did. He said he "tried to make it look good." He also said he felt bad "but I just needed the money and that is why I took the dive."
     
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    Oh yes, fat, black, untrained "Boxers" are always paid to take a dive in Europe.

    They never loose because they are fat and untrained.
     
  10. Saad54

    Saad54 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You just called Tim Witherspoon a "boxer" Brian Nielsen couldn't, as Larry Holmes would say, carry his Jockstrap.

    Nielsen was terrible. Oh, you're from Denmark. That explains it.
     
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    Do you think Tim also needed to make stuff up in his book because he needed the money?
     
  12. The Mongoose

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    He loses to all of them but old Zora and shot Williams, those were Nielsen's bread and butter.
     
  13. frankenfrank

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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvz8uowZRBM#t=247

    Definitely seems fake.
    Jeremy Williams is Hollywood's sole biggest miss.
     
  14. frankenfrank

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    So you pick both the back injured version of Patterson and the healthier 37 years old version to do a # on Nielsen?
     
  15. The Mongoose

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    Absolutely. Bad back Patterson lasted a very long time with Ali.

    That 37 year old version of Patterson outpointed Bonavena, he was better than Neilsen.