If Brian Nielsen had 2 go through Ali's opponents

I don't think Tim made any money on that book. It wasn't really even a book. It reads more like a transcribed interview. It rambles all over the place. And it's self-published, I believe, by the the guy wrote it.

I wouldn't recommend it.

But Nielsen being involved in fixed fights is pretty well established. People went to jail over it.

 

Be a short career.

 

He would have had plenty of losses

 

He loses.

 

I was ringside often when Brian Nielsen fought, several times as aringside photographer with my elbowes at the ring apron. What I always found strange was that what I saw from ringside was not the same fight I saw later on tape. On TV and tape Brian Nielsen (If you just sometimes could spell it right) looked awful - from close range he was actually very clever and fast with his hands.

And no we are not so rich in Denmark that we can bribe every fat and undertrained US boxer to loose over here - It is not needed - they loose by themself.

 

Nielsen had some names on his resume, but that's all they were by the time he fought them. Some of his notable opponents were washed up former CWs. I thought a 76 year old Holmes beat him.

 

Brian Nielsen was a product of Mogens Palle, his promotor and manager. Winning bronze at the Olympics made Nielsen a household name. But he was booed out in his first fight when he was´nt able to show any hitting power. He won a 6 round decison against Terry Armstrong. It was obvious that Nielsen had no punch. In his 8th fight he finally managed to hurt and finish an opponent. I the first 2 years of his career he advanced from 6x2 minutes rounds to 4x3 rounds, defeating Ross Puritty over the distance in Los Angeles. He was 32 but on TV he was listed as 22. Then things started to change. Somehow from somewhere he suddenly got a punch. Bonecrusher Smirh - one of the few men to have lasted the distance against prime Tyson - was stopped in 5 rounds. Nielsen stole the frontpages of Danish newspapers. And then he just marched forward knocking out pretenders and former contenders like Tony Tubbs, Phil Jackson, Andrew Maynard, Lionell Butler and Tim Witherspoon. He was a huge star and many believed he was a worldclass performer. But Mogens Palle knew what he had, the limits and possibilities. Nielsen was offered a fight against Lou Savarase in USA - a reasonable fight for a serious contender. But Mogens Palle said NO - and Nielsen kept on fighting in Denmark, he himself believing he had the class to challenge the best. But a cowboy type bar brawler ****y Bryan proved that Nielsen had neither class or power when he acted as a punchbag for 9 rounds before Nielsen ran out of gas, and collapsed in the 10th round. The punches that stoped former worldchampions had no effects on a cowboy ! Well, not much more to be said on Nielsen. He was a stubborn punchbag for Tyson for 6 rounds, then gave up. He fought a decent fight against Larry Holmes, got the decision - but lots of Danes had Holmes winning. The comeback - after 9 years out of the ring - against Holyfiels was a joke. On the same show, a popstar and a former football great made their professionel debut. Holyfield had an easy night stopping the 46 year old in the 10th round. And Nielsen, now 50 still talks about one more fight - if only Sauerland could lure Tyson to come back.
Nielsen got the best out his limited talent. All the boxers mentioned would´ve boxed rings around him. And I´m Danish and I do like Nielsen, and I enjoyed watching him put on a show against boxers at his own level.

 

Here are at least four of the fights Palle asked Mittleman to arrange. The last one, against Thomas Williams, sent three people to jail in the U.S. when Williams told people he was bribed. Palle didn't come to the States (or he would've been prosecuted , too).

These don't include Nielsen-Witherspoon, which Witherspoon said was fixed. He went to Denmark and agreed to fight for $40,000. According to Witherspoon, when he started getting cold feet, the promoter gave him an extra $10,000 in cash.

Brian Nielsen-Lionel Butler
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6S9kugd_1g

Brian Nielsen – Tony Tubbs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8jBZTL2Das

Brian Nielsen-Mike Hunter
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcVrtxfnz7E

Brian Nielsen –Thomas Williams
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7UgY7isKzI

Getting back to the theme of the thread, I'm going to go out on a limb and say the likes of a prime Foreman, a prime Frazier, Jerry Quarry, Floyd Patterson, George Chuvalo, Oscar Bonavena ... basically all of the guys Ali fought would've done just fine against Nielsen.

Nielsen would beat Coopman.

 

:bbb

 

Are you serious?

Ali turned pro at 18. He weighed in the 180s. As he "grew up" and actually became a grown man and a pro athlete, he added nearly 30 pounds of muscle and his power got better.

Nielsen, on the other hand, was in his late 20s pushing 30 when he turned pro and was closer to 300 pounds in most of his fights than he was 200. He was already a grown man. He shouldn't have been adding power.

And, in fact, he didn't. Because his promoter was PAYING PEOPLE to go down. They got caught. People went to prison. It was an open secret before that.

Sorry to burst your bubble. Maybe if they'd managed to extradite Palle and thrown him in jail, too, you might've heard about it.

 

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So you've gone from denying that Brian Nielsen's opponents were bribed and took dives ... to admitting Brian Nielsen's opponents were bribed and took dives, so Ali's must've been too ... even moreso.

Got it.

When you find out who bribed who to go down in what round and how much they all got, let me know.

It'll be a great story. I'd love to read it.

Gotta go.