If Bud has a dominating performance Saturday, he’s number 1 p4p and it’s not necessarily close too

Inoue is getting Roy Jones'ed. Makes it look too easy.

 

As for the thread: no reasonable man should put Crawford's sad resume over YEARS of all-time great effort and success the road warrior Usyk had. Serge needs to get his arse here, because I swear people are getting used to the good stuff far too quickly, forgetting what the man has done and what he meant and means for the division.

 

he's won 17 title fights in a row so i give him credit for that.

 

no... the greatest of all time is sugar ray robinson... a different level... this guy looked gigantic

 

Still the man who collected souls and 0's of every meaningful name in a stacked cruiserweight before moving up to humiliate and take belts off of a man 20lbs heavier and instill the fear of God into another 6'8 giant. Only we get used to good things happening and prance at every new thing.

 

Usyk resume is much better

 

I figured the troll would be out about this. Lol

 

Mentioning people slobbing over Canelo is as lazy and bad of a strawman as one can think of. In reality even massive amount of casuals understood that Alvarez was involved in many dodgy wins or outright robberies.

Usyk decimating the stacked cruiser by fighting each man on his own turf is definitely more impressive than Crawford's run at 140, even with the decent win in Postol.
Briedis, Gassiev, Hunter, Głowacki, even the likes of Huck and Bellew all had hometown advantage. That's who is who of the division.
Beating Joshua in the heart of England is just as if not more impressive than scoring a win over Spence by virtue of him holding three belts and having 20lbs advantage to boot. It's the difference between 147 to 168, and while at that weight the differences impact the fight differently, there is a point to be seen here, and Usyk did it twice.

As I see it, Errol was wrecked by the car accident and was very suspicious afterwards, hanging with Crawford as high on the Ring pound for pound list as they were mainly due to being from the USA and promising that supercash superfight to be milked (not that the magazine is trustworthy anyway, with numerous dubious positions in the recent years and even right now.) Granted, they were both better than anybody else at 147 with only the rising Boots promising to challenge them. Still, fact is, Spence and Crawford never had that good of a resume, Bud said as much mentioning Shawn Porter as having more solid resume. While debatable, there is a grain of truth to that, and despite of Crawford's marvelous skills he often had periods of less than ideal legacy making fights, according to him because of Arum if I remember correctly.

As far as I'm concerned Usyk jumped over much higher hurdles. More than disparaging Terrence, it's a testament to how numbing successful the ukrainian was.

Not gonna argue about Inoue as he is still 30, though his next fight likely matches the two times undisputed record. Hopefully he finds some iconic HoF-worthy rivals as well.

 

Wrong again bud.

 

Canelo had many close fights but that doesn't mean he didn't deserve to be P4P #1. You'd have to be blind to not recognize his skill and worthiness P4P.

P4P is more about what you have done lately. It's not about what you did years ago. it's about the fighter you are today. Usyk is an inactive Heavyweight and the wins over AJ do not make him P4P. He struggled in the AJ rematch as well and he's just too inactive to be P4P #1. The reason why Canelo was ahead of Bud all those years is largely because he was fighting tougher competition, fighting far more regularly and making history. Now Bud has a great win on his resume but there's a reason why he wasn't P4P #1 all those years that Canelo was reigning. It wasn't because people were slobbering over Canelo, it was because Bud was not fighting often enough and when he did fight the competition was average or sub-par. Bud beating washed up Kell Brook and washed up Amir Khan didn't move the needle. Meanwhile Canelo was beating better opponents than Bud, doing it more impressively, and fighting far more often.