If Buster Douglas beat prime Tyson, why couldn't Vitali?

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  1. sean1982

    sean1982 Active Member Full Member

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    Correct sir! I really like and respect the klitschkos but with a certain few of there fans making them the be all end all putting down all others i find myself picking at there flaws and losses instead of enjoying there accomplisments, i find my self saying tko 6, when i dont mean to disrespect the klits but there dopey fanatics.
     
  2. knockout artist

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    Can Vitali move as fluidly as Buster did that night? Does he have Buster's handspeed? Can he throw combinations as fluidly? A lot of what Buster did that night is not getting credit here.
     
  3. Player3

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    nope........
     
  4. Faerun

    Faerun Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Nobody is shot at 24. Nobody.
     
  5. Ren

    Ren Active Member Full Member

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    exactly, what you might ask is would Bustered Tyson beat Klitman v Byrd quitting in the ring or with his face torn up from poor defence v Lewis?

    If you are picking worst for worst, that is.

    Not ruling out the fact that Klitman brings some decent anti-Tyson weapons into the ring (height and jab), hes just not fast enough to ward off tyson over 15 rounds. He has a chance, but hes not favourite.
     
  6. Hands of Iron

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  7. knockout artist

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  8. locard

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    Have you ever watched the fights you dumb fanboy, unlike Vitali who was outlanding Lewis every round before the stoppage, Tyson was just a pitiful punching bag for him from beginning to end and got KTFO. Williams was nothing but target practice for Vitali, floored him a number of times and finally knocked him out when he got tired of playing.


    Let me reformulate that, Tyson would get manhandled by Vitali on the inside. Vitali is a king of tactical clinching, and we have seen how susceptible Tyson is to get frustrated and nullified by even the clinching tactics of bums like Green and Smith, capice? It's another weapon that Vitali would bring to the table that could get rid of Tyson's early assault in case he needed it, and I-was-outmuscled-by-Holyfield Tyson couldnt do a damn thing about it.


    Just reminding you Tyson fanboys some cold hard facts. Pretty sure that if Vitali hadn't performed better even against ONE of these common opponents, we'd be seeing a ¨Tyson Ko'ed X bum faster than Vitali so he's better¨ as one of your main arguements, seeing as how very few valid ones you have.

    Tyson fanboys are not any better with their moronic statements ¨Tyson KO2,3, midget speed killz¨ putting Vitali on the same level of a Marvis Frazier.

    This fight wouldn't be a piece of cake for neither fighter, I think Vitali would win most likely, but I dont go as far as to say he's gonna KO Tyson in 2 rounds as if Tyson was a no name bum like the ones he used to feast on.
     
  9. wladmad

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    If Buster Douglas beat prime Tyson, why couldn't Vitali? I would answer but i don't want to cause controversy,let me just say it depends who you ask.
     
  10. Hands of Iron

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    Much better formulated. Tyson was a different fighter post-prison and still on a learning curve for Tillis and Green, fights he won handily.


    :rofl

    Let me ask you some questions:

    How many Tyson fanboys consider the Douglas loss to of been during his prime (albeit far from his peak performance) or reach a largely undecided pick 'em in fantasy fights with the likes of Vitali Klitschko and Lennox Lewis? You can be a fan without crossing into fanboyism.

    Taking shots at Tyson on a resume basis in regards to Vitali is only detrimental to your lopsided, troll-like arguments. :thumbsup
     
  11. Because Buster's black and has more fast twitch fibres that Vitali just can't match.
     
  12. sean1982

    sean1982 Active Member Full Member

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    Ok good so you agree it wouldnt be easy for either, im a massive fan of tyson but im also a fan of lots of others including tje klitschkos, the next step is to admit vitali lost twice fair and square no excuses, just like tyson lost fair and square.
     
  13. Webbiano

    Webbiano Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If Chris Byrd and a shot Lennox Lewis could beat a prime Vitali why couldn't Tyson
     
  14. Bubby

    Bubby Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Here's a few facts about Mike Tyson.

    Fact one, Tyson fought in probably the weakest era in HW history.

    Fact two, many of Tyson's opponents admitted to being high on crack "during" their fights with him.

    Fact three, Tyson at 25yo was not past his prime when he lost to Douglas.

    Fact four, Tyson never asked for, or tried to get a rematch with Douglas.

    Fact five, Douglas was a quitter with no heart who almost quit against Tyson even tho he was winning easy.

    Fact six , Tyson lost to three poor quality opponents.
     
  15. Ren

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    the question must be about prime tyson though, not tyson when he is doing the washing up and balancing all the crockery, Tyson spinning plates or tyson in Kindergarden.

    If we arent considering primes then we may as well proclaim that Buster DOuglas KOs a 130 year old Jack Johnson.