If Bute vs Pavlik is going to happen , where it should be ? ( the venue )

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  1. flashy k.o

    flashy k.o Supporter of E.E fighters Full Member

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  2. HoldMyBeer

    HoldMyBeer Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    yet both taylor and pavlik will be remembered and bute will not as things stand now

    both taylor and pavlik have been legit world champs, bute hasn't achieved anything of note except racking up hometown wins and getting dominated by a SMW gatekeeper in the only time he stepped up

    don't fall into the trap of over-rating a fighter who hasn't even graduated to the top level of the sport yet
     
  3. Hermit

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    I didn't think Bute would struggle against Froch either. Pavlik isn't a bad boxer and I'm not sure at this point that Bute can really hurt him and that would be VERY bad for Bute. I look for Bute to come out and stay on the back foot. Thing is though, once you lose the OH the judges don't give you as much credit for that kind of game plan as you are used too. That's why I don't see Arum letting this happen in Canada where he probably would still win rounds doing that. Bute has shown a nice body attack in the past but to deliver that he has to be in Kelly's wheel house and he still looked pretty damned gun shy last time out. I don't care what he said about the final rounds that was still a low level opponent he was in with.
     
  4. flashy k.o

    flashy k.o Supporter of E.E fighters Full Member

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    well I like to think that Bute will be as he was in pre-Froch fight time. Indeed he didn't shine against Grachev , excepting the last 2-3 rounds of that fight but I believe that he has rebuilded his confidence back and that he will be in a good psychically mood when he will fight next. Yeah I know that Pavlik is a tough mofo with a good chin , power and will but I also think that he's not anymore the fighter that he was . :yep
     
  5. HoldMyBeer

    HoldMyBeer Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    and you may be right about that, but bute hasn't 'been somebody' yet
    if bute can beat pavlik, it will keep him in the loop, but he's on shaky ground
     
  6. flashy k.o

    flashy k.o Supporter of E.E fighters Full Member

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    it will be Pavlik's period of inactivity vs Bute's bad loss drama

    Pavlik is a "flatfooted" fighter with a poor footwork but with some heavy hands. The question is if his power is close to Froch's power but I highly doubt that Pavlik hits as hard as Froch.

    Plus, that Pavlik hasn't Froch's jab , skills and awkward style. Pavlik is an ABC fighter.
     
  7. HoldMyBeer

    HoldMyBeer Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :good
    absolutely
     
  8. flashy k.o

    flashy k.o Supporter of E.E fighters Full Member

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    rephrase : Pavlik's period of inactivity at a high level cuz his last fight was in July this year against a guy named Rosinsky, so its not such a big gap of time
     
  9. HoldMyBeer

    HoldMyBeer Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    pavlik has been off the radar for a long time, but a bute - pavlik fight makes a whole lot of sense for me

    it's a not a good fight to lose for either guy
     
  10. laffie

    laffie Montreal Full Member

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    I don't care about the location.
     
  11. lester proctor

    lester proctor Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Who is the gatekeeper here, Froch? Must be a pretty small gate, only 1 guy is behind it.
     
  12. laffie

    laffie Montreal Full Member

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    2 guys if I understand what you mean.
     
  13. H .

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    it really doesn't matter

    might as well be england, that answer comes up frequently at ESB
     
  14. ButtBread

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    Canada. It's not a title fight, Pavlik is not undefeated so what does he have to lose? He already has a big reputation. If he goes over there, people will see him fighting in a big arena full of people and think "oh, Pavlik is back." If he has a good fight and gets robbed, people will want to see him in another big fight anyway. If he gets destroyed, the same thing would have happened anywhere and this way he gets max pay.