If Calzaghe can't beat an old Ward (bhop) how can he beat...

Ward beats Calzaghe. It would be pretty sound to me. Ward has a nice long reign ahead of him being king.

 

Ward's never fought anyone remotely close to the level of Calzaghe, yet you Ward fans come out with such definitive statements :nut

 

What a rubbish troll post.
You dont note that it was old Calzaghe at the end of his career fighting at a different weight.
What about how Ward looked beaten by Boone.
How about the fact Ward seemed to be gassing against Froch and Calzaghe is alot better than Froch with a higher workrate and better stamina. If Ward gasses against Froch he certainly would against Calzaghe.

Almost everyone that scored the fight for Hopkins is lying to themselves and others. I understand that Hopkins is an American legend that people want to see as an iconic figure. America love a reformist and Hopkins as a former armed robber turned world champ is just the story that wins Americas hearts but...

Here are some solid facts
1. Calzaghe landed more than 100 punches than Hopkins throughout the fight.
2. Contrary to what people want to believe, Calzaghe also made Hopkins miss more
3. All round punch percentages, Calzaghe finished ahead of Hopkins
4. Calzaghe outlanded Hopkins in every round
5. A Byrd who scored for Hopkins it appears has a history for bad scorecards. Type in Adalaide Byrd in Google and see what comes up for yourself, still here are some little things for you to look at
a. A Byrd was the only judge out of the 3 scoring judges that had Mack ahead against Cloud
b. The K Pavlik - A Lopez fight was scored 98-92, 99-91 by the other 2 judges, A Byrd scored it 95-95
c. A Byrd was one of the judges that had Morales a 4 point loser against Maidana
d. In the S Aydin vs S Ouali fight, the other 2 judges scored clearly for Aydin. Byrd scored for Ouali
e. The J Almaraz/C Tyler fight was scored a Maj-Dec all because of one judge, guess which? A Byrd
f. The A DeMarco/J Reyes fight was a SD. Guess who the odd judge out was? A Byrd.
g. The R Torres - M Arnaoutis fight was a close fight, a point either way to 2 judges but a wide result scored by Byrd
h. In the A Pryor Jr/D Stanislavjevic SD, guess who the odd judge out was? You guessed it... A Byrd
i. The W Ferguson/J Lopez SD, guess who the odd judge out was? You guessed it... A Byrd

I think thats enough for you to get the picture with Byrd. Remember the other 2 judges scored clearly for Calzaghe

6. Calzaghe beat Hopkins in America, at a new weight with 3 American judges and Cortez as ref.
7. Calzaghe scored the single highest score card against Hopkins ever 116-111.
8. The 2 judges that scored for Calzaghe agreed on 9 of the rounds
9. Calzaghe landed more on Hopkins than anyone ever.




Now I know there will be a flood of people coming on here noting Hopkins scoring a flash KD in the first round, and I agree that Hopkins did win a few rounds even when he didnt land as often, but people are mad if they think Calzaghe won on workrate, Calzaghe won because he was able to land his left more often than Hopkins could land his right.
Calzaghe finished the stronger and took away the moments Hopkins likes down the stretch.
Other thoughts, If Hopkins thought he was winning, do you think he would have been looking for time out and would bother trying to get points deducted off of Calzaghe, of course he wouldnt, Hopkins knew he was losing.

 

Orifice69 is very deluded Beouche. He stalks me and then pretends he has me on ignore . I see you have put him firmly in his place

 

Look at that the lenght of that crazy post by a madman above. Who would want to be associated with a nutjob like him!

 

Such a crazy post that you havent found one single counter point .

 

my brain cannot even begin to fathom how ugly this fight would be.

 

Actually yes he did fight Abraham. in the super six . . . .

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LSEpCdA7n3c[/ame]

 

yea, a know

You got to give Ward credit for taking on Bika tho, and fighting him at his own dirty in-house rough em up game. Even Bika gave him credit after that fight

 

ward is more athletically better then a prime hopkins. ward seem to be just as smart as bhop was in the ring but without the cheap shot tactics.

 

LOL @ these goons placing emphasis on Ward coasting in one round against Carla.One single round.And that's the only round Carla did win.


Calzaghe lost more rounds against Richie Woodhall.

Given you've criticized Ward for lacking power and having an ugly style,I'd say you're definitively a hypocrite.Calzaghe was never a puncher,and his style was as repulsive as it got.Several of his title fights (David Starie,Miguel Jimenez,Rick Thornberry,Kabary Salem,Evans Ashira) are amongst some of the worst title fights of the last twenty years.

 

I'd like to see waht this thread reads like five years from now.

 

he was 36 when he fought Hopkins , not 38.

 

Calzaghe had 32 stoppages in his career out of 46 wins yet he had no power. Calzaghe was the reason I got into boxing after he boxed beautifully against Lacy, its just a shame he didnt leave for bigger fights sooner in his career.

All the above fights werent Calzaghe's best performances but at least he had some good fights

Kessler, Lacy, Mitchell, Brewer, Reid, Veit, Eubank, Bika and Woodhall were all good to watch however thus far every Ward fight had bored the **** out of me

Ward boxes in short bursts, then jumps in holding on for dear life slamming his chrome dome in and has not got the power to make a fight exciting. He even managed to make a Froch fight boring.

Calzaghe on the other hand has a high punch out put, can hurt you and adapts to certain styles in the ring. Its a shame Ottke robbed him of a chance to unify the WBA/IBF belts earlier than he did and Hopkins priced himself out of a fight

But hey ill just wait for the Ward bubble to burst

 

My bad, havent slept so my math was a tad off. regardless he wasnt a spring chicken (people were screaming Eubank was shot at 32)