If Calzaghe fought the same guys that RJJ has....

Funny I've always wondered how calzaghe would get on againest someone the size of Ruiz.He'd probably get stopped.But it would be interesting to see how he would try to adapt his style againest someone as big as Ruiz.Probably have to fight off the backfoot use his jab and hope his chin holds up.

 

I can see a scenario of Joe pitter patting his way to a ud over Ruiz... :bbb

I tink Toney is the only real question mark for Calzaghe, but I would still lean to Joe on workrate. You could also never know what Toney would show up, sometimes he looked peak but he liked to eat pie too much - he was also a very un inspiring light heavyweight.

Put it this way at 168 and 175 Joe wins, at 160 (Joe half dead due to weight loss) or 200 (Joe too big, losing his advantages - speed, workr ate etc), then Toney wins.

 

Prime, in-shape Toney would **** Calzaghe up.

 

I think he loses to Ruiz (which is somewhat of a given), at least once to Milk Dud and I think he and Hopkins would be close again as well.

It's not a knock on Calzaghe but rather a testament to the long resume Roy has.

 

Calslappy would have a dozen losses ... he's a solid B fighter ... are you kidding?

LMAO ... Joey's the ESB 'great white hope' ... ridiculously overrated

 

Put the crack pipe down and walk away from the keyboard.atsch

 

I don't think that Tarver X 2 and Johnson would have beaten Jones either, but they did.

In the end you really never know.

 

Blocky, do you think about what you say before you type?:huh

Would you tattoo 'JC+Blocky 4 ever' over your heart?

Is JC the greatest of all time in your book? If not, who is?

 

I think Joe would definitly have a couple losses and there's absolutely nothing wrong with that at all. Jones has a very solid resume (sometimes catching way to much **** for it). The problem Joe C would have in some of those cases would be that he's not really a slick boxer like Jones was, Calzaghe throws punches/slaps in bunches and has quick hands. Joe C's style would really give him hell against some of those guys. Johnson, Griffin, Ruiz, Tarver, Toney, Hopkins (then) would all give Joe C very very tough fights. To say that Joe C wins easily against any of them is ******ed. Actually I would pic all them to beat Joe C except Griffin.

 

You have to leave man ... only nut-huggers allowed

:yep


Good post ... perfect actually.

 

****, one needs a crack pipe to ignore the rabid nut-huggery for Joe In The Plastic Bubble Calzaghe. You sucking him off too?

 

You need to provide a career tracker for Calzaghe to even think about this. Jones was somewhat green vs. Hopkins, and he was severely faded by the time he got to Tarver. You can't very well consider Calzaghe being prime for all those guys, because Jones himself wasn't.

If you take the Eubank version of Calzaghe vs. the 1993 version of Hopkins, I'm taking Bernard. Joe wouldn't have handled that style well at all then.

Then, you'd have the Robin Reid-era version of Calzaghe against Toney and the others Roy fought at 168. He'd probably beat those guys, including the bad version of James that Roy fought, although it would have been more competitive.

By the time he got to the Sheika-Brewer era, he'd be dealing with guys like Montell Griffin and Virgil Hill. Because Jones was better suited to deal with bigger men, I think there's a chance that Griffin beats him. I'd favor Calzaghe, though, in a tough fight, and think he'd handle Hill as well.

During the wasted, non-descript 2002-04 range, Calzaghe arguably was at his peak. This timeframe coincides with Jones' fights against some of his lesser opponents, although a prime Eric Harding would take some rounds off Calzaghe and would be another candidate to defeat him. Good fight.

Then, when Calzaghe advances from guys like Salem and Veit II to Lacy, Bika and Kessler, he was starting to lose power and reflexes. How would that affect him against Gonzalez and the young and aggressive Woods? I'd favor Joe, but at 175, those aren't easy fights for him at that stage.

It goes without saying he'd lose to Ruiz. No way Calzaghe could win at HW.

That takes us to about 2003 for Jones (i.e., Tarver I) and today's version of Calzaghe, who hasn't drained like that and is in better shape than Roy was at that time. I think today's Joe would have some bad moments against that version of Tarver, but outpoint him on workrate.

You can't talk about Tarver II and the rest until Calzaghe becomes shot, as Jones obviously was then.

 

Great post. This isn't prime Calzaghe against jones resume. This is a comparison, therefore their Ages/circumstances have to be comparative.

First off lets deal with the Ruiz fight because it's the easiest to call; Calzaghe simply does not have the frame to bulk up, he doesn't carry muscle well and his punching power would seriously disable him. The extra weight that would lend him more durability would slow him down, in the end he gets knocked out, probably early mid rounds after a lot of running and punishment.


Hopkins-Calzaghe would be a close fight, but i see Hopkins beating calzaghe. Hopkins is naturally stronger than Calzaghe was an exceptional counter puncher and in his prime created good combinations. Calzaghe has always had poor balance and suspect technique, i see him getting countered a lot. Hopkins UD.



Difficult fights would be Harding, Tarver,Johnson,Griffin, Toney, If we are talking about Toney that isn't weight drained and is in condition i would take him over calzaghe.


I'm not saying they all beat Joe, but then no one thought that Tarver, Johnson would beat Jones. Put it this way Jones would deal with Calzaghe's resume easier than Joe would deal with his...

 

Hell of a post Lampley, for the most part I agree.

 

James Toney would beat him badly..

John Ruiz..beat him badly..

Bernard Hopkins...UD...