If Calzaghe had picked opponents Froch style, how many defeats would he have had?

Froch would KO that version of Eubank, i need to remind you that he didnt beat good fighters years before Calzaghe beat him, so no way that Eubank beats Froch, prime Eubank is different story.

 

Calzaghe would've incurred a few losses if he'd had the same warrior mentality as Froch. The guy had to go life and death to an SD in his physical prime - with Robin Reid. He was getting dropped by guys like Salem and Mitchell. Of course he'd have suffered defeats if he was doing what Froch was doing, fighting the very best fighters in the world consistently without ever taking one tune-up in between. Of course he would.

 

I thought you had retired Slopkins.:rofl

You are like a bad smell that just won't go away, aren't you? :dead

 

Calzaghe beats Froch h2h, Calzaghe beats more elite fighters h2h than Froch does that anybody chooses for them to fight. Calzaghe has a better resume as clear defeats on Froch resume against Kessler and Ward cant be counted as a positive.

In fact Calzaghe beat a prime unbeaten Kessler and then years later a worse version of Kessler beats Froch.

Calzaghe over Froch anyday of the week whether resume or h2h, Calzaghe is the man compared to Froch.

 

Froch does appear to constantly take the hardest fights he can get his hands on.

First fight after becoming WBC hamp was to fly to America to fight jermain Taylor

Then after coming out of a long tourney running a killer gauntlet he immediately takes on the one guy who shined big outside the tourney.....and crushed him.

Carl craves to be considered great, and won't back down from any fight that paves that way. :yep

 

well yeah, it should be post prime Toney. Between an alledged cripple and a blind man, we seem to have landed on a few truths.[/QUOTE]
So Calzaghe and Toney should have happened when Joe was 7:0? Is that what you're saying?

 

prime Roy Jones - pretty much a guaranteed defeat
prime James Toney
prime Bhop
Ward
Hopkins rematch

 

Too much poop in there to address, and most of it has been put out here before by the ignoranti.

Just one quick question, when should Calzaghe have fought Toney ?

 

froch only got the taylor fight because taylor was faltering and he thought fighting froch was a stepping stone to getting where he use to be....

don't fool yourself, but without the taylor fight froch wasn't lining up any fights over the pond and was talking **** about calzaghe the same way witter was about hatton.

 

Fair enough admission on the Toney bit.

The earliest the two could be considered meeting would be early 1998, after Calzaghe came on the scene by capturing Eubank's title. By that point, Toney was a cruiserwt and was never smaller than that again.




As for the rest...


Steve Collins.

Even worse suggestion as Collins retired before anyone had heard of Calzaghe.



Ottke.

Refused to fight outside of Germany, where he was comprehensively schooled by Calzaghe-victim Reid, but got the nod anyway.



Jones. (The only man on your list who would probably have beaten Calzahe)

The prospect of such a fight got mentioned, but again, Roy was up to Lt Heavy by the time Eubank won his title, and he never fought lower than that again.



Robin Reid .

He beat Reid, and Reid was out of the ring for over a year after that, losing to Branco upon his return. I don't believe a second defeat of Reid would have enhanced Calzaghe's much.


Beyer.

First actual sensible name on the list.

Beyer called out Calzaghe in 2006, but lost to future Calzaghe-victim Kessler later that year.




BHop.

2002 BHop ducked out of a verbal agreement to fight Calzaghe in the state.





Young Bute.

:rofl

You're really reaching here.

Bute was nobody till he captured a belt in Oct 2007. Calzage/Kessler was already scheduled.

After that, BHop was finally a reality.

Bute was still a relative nobody.



Stieglitz

Joke entry to your list.

He was a nobody when Joe retired.


Ward.

:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl

You really need to think about time-lines, dude.


Hopkins rematch.

In the first fight, we had an American location, an American ref, three American judges, and Calzaghe fighting for the first time at Lt-heavy.

Not much chance Bernard would have done better in a second bout, especially as Joe had him figured out after four rounds.



All in all, a very uninformed set of speculations, with some downright ridiculous names tossed in.


I've seen the same nonsense posted about Jones' career, replete with names of guys how ere retired or dead before Roy came on the scene.

 

JC might have beaten all in that list. Question mark over Roy, given that RJJ was also a ducker and no one really knows for sure how good or bad he really is. Toney would have been a test but going on their styles and JC's solid chin and defense, JC wins a decision.

Hopkins is not outworking JC and doesn't have the power to stop him.

 

Joe doesnt lose