If Calzaghe wants to be a First-Ballot Hall of Famer...

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Axe, Nov 10, 2008.


  1. Axe

    Axe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    ...he will need to fight Chad Dawson in the USA. That is the fight that will push him over the top--because he is not there yet--even after beating two largely faded legends.

    Calzaghe fans will argue that the fight will make more money in Wales, and so it should be held there as Joe's farewell fight. However, Joe's fights against Hopkins and Jones had pathetic attendance numbers compared to Calzaghe's UK fight against Lacy, yet these fights were held in the USA.

    So why change the pattern now...because he's fighting a P4P talent who actually is in his prime? Please, he already had to beat the lesser Kessler in the UK. Either retire Joe, or face Dawson in the States and find out just how good you really are. :good

    Let's face it, if Calzaghe comes to the USA and beats 27-0 Chad Dawson fairly, he will go down in history on the same level as Bernard Hopkins and Roy Jones Jr.: a top 50 ATG, and a First-Ballot Hall of Famer.
     
  2. djc1289

    djc1289 Member Full Member

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    SHUT THE **** UP HONESTLY.. beating Dawson would prove ****. this time last month people were saying the same bout Pavlik. ****ing stupid ***** that u r
     
  3. Darxide

    Darxide Active Member Full Member

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    Why should he go to the USA? Joe doesn't need Dawson to go down in history as a great, he has already secured that. On the other hand Dawson has everything to gain, if he loses he lost to the proven best and if he wins he becomes the best.

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    Calzaghe fans will argue that the fight will make more money in Wales, and so it should be held there as Joe's farewell fight. However, Joe's fights against Hopkins and Jones had pathetic attendance numbers compared to Calzaghe's UK fight against Lacy, yet these fights were held in the USA.

    So you admit that it would make more financial sense to be held in Wales? Not sure what your argument is here as you seem to be undermining your own argument?

    Obviously though Enzo and Joe will be studying your disappointing words and will no doubt say "aww crap, Mr Axe has spoken. Now we have to consider what we can do to get his respect".

    Please think before posting, Dawson is the challenger if he wants a shot then he should go and take it wherever it is held.. so lets see how much of a challenger he is. Also beating Dawson easily will no doubt bring all the comments "Ah well Dawson was not ready, however John Doe here is fresh, young and hungry.. to be considered as ATG he would have to beat him" and so on.
     
  4. catasyou

    catasyou Lucian Bute Full Member

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    He's a HOFer already.Dawson doesn't mean nothing to that.
     
  5. Axe

    Axe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Of course that is the case, Joe calls the shots. What I am pointing out is that Calzaghe will simply get more credit if he does the job in the USA, rather than if, say, he receives a contested decision in the UK.
     
  6. Rilz

    Rilz Ball don't lie! Full Member

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    christ give the man a break, you guys are relentless. Get a life.
     
  7. clubberlang

    clubberlang Active Member Full Member

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    Dawson should come to Cardiff, Joe has been to the US if Dawson wants a chance now he should come to Wales and earn it if he wants it that badly!
     
  8. Brickhaus

    Brickhaus Packs the house Full Member

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    Calzaghe's already a first ballot hall of famer. The IBHOF has a pretty weak set of standards, and Calzaghe already fits comfortably into the middle third of hall-of-famers.
     
  9. daredevil1989

    daredevil1989 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    if he wants to be a first ballot hall of famer he has to...
    retire now and wait for the call in five years

    please these threads have to stop im not the buggest fan of the guy either but you cant argue with what he's achieved there'll always be a chad dawson on the horizon if he keeps fighting on so get out now
     
  10. icemax

    icemax Indian Red Full Member

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    FFS, stop teabagging Calzaghe you blind ****er
     
  11. liljp361

    liljp361 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    fight hopkins again but that wont happen Joe knows he will lose if he does
     
  12. icemax

    icemax Indian Red Full Member

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    As there is probably a rematch clause in RJJs contract with Calzaghe, this may all be a moot point. The only fight that JC will take now is a further beat down of an old, shot man in Cardiff
     
  13. jc

    jc Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Dawson cant draw flies to ****. There is not one name in America worth travelling for anymore, Hopkins and Roy Jones are two of the biggest names in the game so made sense to travel.

    Calzaghe is the Champion, Calzaghe is the HOFer, he doesnt have to bow down to any demands made by an unknown like Chad Dawson.

    HBO might not even want this fight, American fans dont even know who Dawson is...

    "IF" Calzaghe fights on and he doesnt have to by any means, but if he does it should definately be in the UK in a packed out arena, MEN, O2 or even better, the Millenium Stadium.:deal
     
  14. Axe

    Axe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    IMO, he is not.

    The HOF does not have very high standards for entry anymore, but they DO still have very high standards for being selected via first-ballot.
     
  15. TheGrimReaper

    TheGrimReaper Well-Known Member Full Member

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    the fight should be in wales and chad has no problem going there