If Calzaghe wants to be a First-Ballot Hall of Famer...

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  1. Axe

    Axe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I don't know why Joe has ascended so much after beating a shot Jones and a severely faded Hopkins.
     
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  2. Axe

    Axe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Anyone with a belt would have done fine I believe.

    He also could have fought any of the names at 160 or gone up and fought Michalczewski at 175, he was his mandatory since 1999 when he reached WBO superchamp status at 168.
     
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  3. RUSKULL

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    Why the **** should Joe have to fight Dawson in the USA? That's ridiculous, Joe has more of a name & both fighters would make more fighting in the UK.

    Honestly, who besides serious boxing fans even knows who Chad Dawson is? Joe himself is just starting to be more well known.
     
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  4. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    Never underestimate the power of self-delusion of a nuthugger!:thumbsup
     
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  5. RUSKULL

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    "Severly faded Hopkins?" Bernie just beat Kelly Pavlik and quite easily so either Hopkins wasn't that "faded" or Pavlik wasn't ****. Judging from Kelly's multiple wins over Taylor & Miranda I'd say Hops wasn't faded.
     
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  6. RUSKULL

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    I didn't mean that as a shot against Dawson's credibility either, just his marketability. :good
     
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  7. Axe

    Axe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Either that or Pavlik's style was taylor-made for Hopkins?

    Hopkins has been on the decline for at least 5 years.

    The fights with Eastman and Taylor were sure-fire signs he was past his best.
     
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  8. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    I know, but the Thread Starter did!;)
     
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  9. RUSKULL

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    Were you embarassed for Hopkins when he faked low blows vs. Joe? I was.............
     
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  10. RUSKULL

    RUSKULL Loyal Member banned

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    I know.
     
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  11. Axe

    Axe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    So was I. Happy? :yep

    Decebal--get off my nuts son! :rofl
     
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  12. Bodysnatcher

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  13. Axe

    Axe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    So why did he fight in the States twice, when the live gate was tiny for both those fights?

    The real money is in PPV's.
     
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  14. LightningJoe

    LightningJoe The Filipino Flash Full Member

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    Because he was criticised for not fighting in America, maybe?

    To experience fighting in Vegas and MSG, maybe?

    Seriously, he gets slaughtered for not having fought in the US, and when he does, he still gets criticised.
     
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  15. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    You're avoiding the question.

    Names. please.

    (Go back and reread the initial post, if necessary).


    No. He made 168 nicely. He couldn't make 160.

    And why the **** should he ?


    Like Bernard did ?

    Or even like Roy did (and he WAS a lt heavy) ?




    Can't tell what the **** you're trying to say here. Can you ?



    He is AT PRESENT an almost certain first ballot HOF choice.

    A win over Dawson does little to increase the chances of something that's near certain. And it still wouldn't silence his critics.


    He would be 37, and this fight even now is a 50-50 proposition.

    Other than Kessler, Dawson is the only guy with any reasonable chance (IMO, almost a pick'em fight).

    And at 37, he has every right to retire as he's already past his own best.
     
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