If Calzaghe was American he'd be #1PvP

Not losing a fight is not the only criteria, as I am sure you know. Otherwise, Pacman wouldn't be #2. Also, WHO you fight is a big deal. Jones won a HW title then dropped 2 weight classes to fight Tarver, the LHW champion. Jones had at that point fought 7 champions at 175 and 3 that actually had titles when he fought them, where as Calzaghe has only ever fought 1 current champion in his division. You are simplifying the argument to give yourself an advantage that simply doesn't exist.

 

I think that is because Gatti is a more accomplished and more proven fighter than Manfredo, who has done absolutely nothing:hat

 

Gatti at that time was worse than ever.

Look what Gomez did to him. Gatti's timing was gone, his stamina awful, his reflexes none existant. Gatti was also as stupid as ever. Manfredo on the other hand is superior to anything Gatti has been in the past 5 years, by a comfortable margin.

 

Gatti lost to Gomez nearly 2 years later than the version PBF fought. And Gatti was on a win streak at the time.

 

If more people believe it, it must be true?

An intriguing idea. Now, since the United States outnumbers Britain by 5-1...

 

Manfredo was on a more impressive winning streak. KOing them too, even though they were old fighters.

 

Against media momentum, it is likely people rank Calzaghe higher due to his abilities.

Americans have nothing to do with the proportion of fans who rank Hatton and Calzaghe differently in a localised area (the UK).

I take it your mood has changed from a few days ago?

 

Not only criteria but right after you get to the top then doesn't matter who you fight.
Calzaghe should be PfP fighetr in 1997-2000 area.
If he was he would be at the same level as Hopkins before he lost to Taylor.
Hopkins oposition was poor for years and his only big wins were over the much
smaller guys who carried on pfp status.

If Calzaghe was pfp before 2000 then no matter who he fought will gave him strong position at the top.
Lacy was overhyped but he would be even more overyped if he was suppoosed to fight Joe as top p4p fighter.
Definitely Lacy - Calzaghe would be for top 1 or 2 pfp then.

 

Two wins in a row is not a streak.

 

Your competition matters when you're at the top as well.

Hopkins unified his division, Calzaghe didn't. Your criteria is flawed because you are dismissing certain areas seemingly for the sake of making your argument stronger.

 

Even then, 2 wins is not as impressive as 5 and over ranked competition AND winning a title.

 

There in no possible chance in the world that Cal would be over Floyd if he was from New York or wherever. Calzaghe is a great champion and a top 5 p4p fighter but his competation has been too weak, and don't give me that prime Robin Reid would have beat Hopkins bull****. Hopkins would have won that fight 9 rounds to 3 or 10-2 with both at their peak. Lacy was very legit when Joe tamed him, that was the only B+ fighter Joe fought since a fading Eubank(who I would say was still a B+ level when Joe beat him).

Now if Joe beats Kessler who I think is the best fighter he has ever gotten in the ring with he might be #2 p4p on my list.