If Calzaghe was American he'd be #1PvP

Has nothing to do with what I said. As I said before, Jones fought more champions than Calzaghe. You seem to be trying to narrow the criteria for your comparison down as much as possible so that Calzaghe can come out on top so you're argument has validity. It doesn't work otherwise.

 

If we're going to try to rank Calzaghe as P4P #1 based on wins such as Eubank, Reid, etc from so far long ago, he stands even less of a chance.

If JC gets to use names from 1997 on his resume, then so does De La Hoya, Trinidad, RJJ, Hopkins, Lewis, Mosley, Forrest, Whitaker, Chavez etc.

JC doesn't stand a CHANCE stacking his resume with these guys. People here are trying to use his "old" wins as a way to trump new P4Pers, but they are trying to EXCLUDE people whose "old wins" came as recent, or even more recently than Calzaghe, and that's not the way it works.

And I can tell you one thing, and that's that JC's record has NOTHING on a true P4Per.

 

Agreed, Jones' team and DM's promoters share the blame. :good

 

I really wonder what goes on in these negotiations. Do you think they ever say "Come on man, the fans really wanna see this fight, lets get it done!" or do you think its all about risk/reward?

 

Nope!

 

Both had the chance to fight Calzaghe and neither accepted. Hopkins even went as far as agreeing to the fight only to DOUBLE his financial demands sometime later, which is the same as ducking to anyone in the know

 

Simply not true. It's easy enough to check these things to save yourself the embarrasment!! Calzaghe has fought overseas twice. Not many I'll admit but that compares more than favourably with Hopkins,Jones, Taylor,Mayweather. Go and check on BoxRec

 

I'm confident Joe would have been elevated to PFP #1 after his win against Dookie Pudwill... then elevated to status of GOD, upon his thrilling win against Peter Manfredo, if only he was a Yank.

 

what does the v stand for in PvP?

 

Who are these big name fighters that would have beaten Calzaghe? Hopkins might not have ducked Calzaghe were he American, but he'd still have lost.