If Calzaghe were American...

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  1. elgrancampeon

    elgrancampeon Well-Known Member Full Member

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    You, my friend, are a ******.:hi:
     
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  2. TheGreat

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    Because both are more accomplised, PBF blows this guy away quite easily IMO.
     
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  3. Lacyace

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    Hopkins and Calzaghe is debatable. Mayweather and Calzaghe isn't.

    I believe Mayweather won 5 titles in 5 different weight classes? Calzaghe can't touch that. P4P, I can't justify putting Calzaghe over Mayweather.
     
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  4. link2296

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    In my opinion, and the opinion of a lot of ringside observers, the fight could have been easily stopped in the late rounds. It could have easily been a TKO.

    Quite honestly though, I would much rather see one of my favorite fighters get knocked out by one punch rather than getting schooled over 12 rounds. if you get dissected over 12 rounds, someone is giving the boxing world the "blueprint" on how to beat you time and time again.

    On the other hand, if you get KO'd with one punch, it could have been just that: one good punch, nothing more and nothing less.
     
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  5. link2296

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    Calzaghe cleaned out and ruled the 168 division throughout his entire career...what division has Mayweather ever "owned"?
     
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  6. Lacyace

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    Hey, I give Calzaghe credit props for cleaning out his division. But Hopkins cleaned out 160. Those two are a wash.

    I mean, damn. Mayweather beat the welterweight champion, Mayweather soundly beat the number one fighter at 154 in De la Hoya, Mayweather had the 140 champion move up to welterweight and Mayweather beat him too. At 130 and 135, Mayweather was dominant. I'm looking at Mayweather's resume and Calzaghe's resume and it isn't all that close. Mayweather got him.
     
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  7. elgrancampeon

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    Well it was over 11 rounds... But anyways Jones was shot as hell. IF you watch boxing enough you would know that. His physical shape has very little to with it. He still has a lot of speed and reflexes. It's his mental breakdown that makes him a shot fighter. He is not able to pull the trigger anymore.

    You can see it where he wants to do it but his head just wont let him do it. This happens to even the bravest of the fighters out there. For that reason I don't think a 12 round schooling means much at this point. Tarver was able to KO RJJ before that mental imprint had fully settled. RJJ was not there all the way physically but mentally he was able to pull the trigger.
     
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  8. elgrancampeon

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    130... and he ruled it far more convincingly than by just holding 1 obscure title.
     
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  9. dudemcdudeson

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    If Joe Calzaghe was an american fighter he would have lost already.
     
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  10. Thinman

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    Are you serious??? You gotta be kidding..... right? I don't think that people believe that Tarver is HOF material...... I actually think that many people dislike Tarver and Jones.
     
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  11. JoeAverage

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    While you are right, I don't think it is what the poster meant. Whites can fight (just look at who is dominating MW and up - and below the latinos dominate). However, white Americans cannot fight, because they have gotten their balls taken away. But dude - while it is true - I think it is for another thread.
     
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  12. JonOli

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    The current p4p no1 or no 2 are not American - both are hugely respected.
     
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  13. link2296

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    Mayweather does have a better resume than most fighters throughout history. i agree that it is almost impossible to debate whether or not anyone has a better resume than his. His undefeated record is also very impressive.

    Although Mayweather accomplished an incredible feat in achieving 5 titles in 5 different weight classes, he didn't look impressive in his victories at 147 and 154. He didn't look great against JLC and never fought Casa or Freitas at 135 either. He left a lot of "unfinished business" at 147. I realize that his goal was to get the green belts at all of these weight classes and that's it. His legacy was pretty much cemented for his work at 130 and 135.

    Wait a minute...why does every thread have to turn into something about Mayweather?

    Dude, I just fell into that same old trap...crap!!:lol:
     
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  14. link2296

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    Really, who would have beaten him and why?
     
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  15. Canadianfan

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    The fact that American fight fans are fighting with the thread starter about this speaks volumes about American fight fans.
     
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