this is not a gun shy roy jones it is roy jones that never had any boundaries [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pd_5-XeEbDk[/ame]
......no offence but who exactly is Antoine Byrd? Look at his record. He had been knocked out in 4 by Larry Musgrove who sported a 12-8 record.........................
**** this bull****. Calzaghe was a true warrior. You know the difference between anatural boxer and a fraud? A natural boxers isn't afraid to commit which Joe wasn't. Give Joe his dues for ****'s sake!!!!!!!!!!!! Instead of trying to de fraud him!!! RJJ got me interested in boxing, RJJ is an artist were it not for him I would not be a boxing fan I'd be one of those masses who think Tyson was the single greatest boxer of all time/ RJJ got me to appreciate the art form of boxing!!!! BUT Give Calzaghe his ****ing dues!!!! COME ON!
jones was just mesmerizing when he fought. its a shame the true 'standard bearer' for boxing has to be a heavyweight - because it's really only the HW champ that joe public knows, which means unless a guy like delahoya comes along then boxing doesn't get too many nights at the forefront of mainstream sports. that's how guys like jones fall under the radar in PPV. but if the man had been a HW......
will you stop blowing wind out of your blinkered british arse! ive had enough of you with your flag-waving one-liners and then you go scampering away before you have to defend yourself. if you have to beat off to your brits like this then go to the bathroom, dont do it in public every ****ing time you come on.
I give Calzaghe all the props in the world for exposing Lacy, but what else has he done?! Absolutely nothing great.
right now. lets you and me have a good ol' debate over this. ive said time and again why calzaghe doesnt get his dues - so have other people. i know you've read them and ignored them. but if you really believe calzaghe is being hard done by then i'm daring you to take me on one on one right now on the forum and see who comes out on top infront of everyone. i bet you those blinkers you wont do it.
-No Joe didn't commit to any challenges in his career. -Tyson will probably go down as the best inside fighter to go down in history, if not the best heavyweight, if not the best boxer of all time. People don't need to give Calzaghe his credit, they need to give Tyson his credit. He was a master of the style Eddie Futch and Cus tailored. Like Joe Frazier before him, Tyson was more than just awesome power and an iron chin, he was everything that separates streetfighting from boxing, everything skillful and sweet. Mike Tyson is boxing. Besides Roy used less skill sets than Mike. Roy's arsenal in my eyes relied more on power, than did Tyson's.
sarah, theres nothing wrong with having your favourites and defending them. but you can only defend them on forums by putting your opinions on the line. if you never do that - and i haven't seen you get into constructive debate once - then it means you're afraid to step out of that 'bubble' that lets you put your heroes on a bigger stage to begin with. when you can step out of that bubble, you'll be a much more confident poster whether you win or lose the debates you take on. your heroes are not, and will never be a part of who you are. and that 'pang' of pride that makes you defend them in the first place even though you're not sure how too is a common one if you take offence against your country when people do that. once you can seperate the two and talk about it openly you'll see it was not a big deal to begin with.
Am I saying Jones would lose to Joe? No. Am I saying Joe would have beaten RJJ? No. Am I saying this thread is bull****? Yes. Prime Cazlaghe - Hopkins 2002 wanted none of it. Jones skipped 168. Case closed. That's all YOU need to KNOW. How'd you like them apples?:bart
I give Calzaghe all the probs in the world for decisioning a 40 year old Roy that was already knocked out by Tarver and Glen Johnson.
And you seriously think Tarver beats Joe? Or WHEN was a pressure fighter like Johnson able to beat Joe? When? WHEN? WHEN WHEN WHEN!!?!?!?!?!?!?! WHEN!?!?!?!? WHAT LEADS YOU TO ASSUME THAT!!!?! WHEN!?!?! WHEN WHEN WHEN!?!?!?!?!?!? WHEN!?!?!?!?!
if the "case is closed" and you want to end your post quoting matt damon (probably because you have a crush on him) - stop being so defensive all the time...damn. why dont you tell me why calzaghe deserves his props when he never beat a proven world class fighter in his prime? (i should get paid for saying those last 10 words by now...i'd be rich for the first time in my life)