If Canelo cleans out 168...can there be an argument that he is over Floyd

LOL I love this argument that Mayweather "taught" Canelo how to box. Canelo was boxing just fine before he ever fought Floyd like when he fought Trout. There are similarities between Canelo and Mayweather, but also differences. Canelo takes more risks, both in the ring and out. He's a bigger puncher, etc.

If anything Canelo showed Mayweather too much respect when they fought, in that Canelo wasn't super aggressive, he was content to engage in a chess match which he lost, but in the process he proved that he's got the technical skills to fight that kind of a fight vs Mayweather. Even as a young 23 year old, he showed that he wasn't just a one-hit wonder trying to get a lucky punch, but that he was trying to beat Mayweather at his own game. This wasn't so much a teaching from Mayweather, but his strategy going into the match. If anything, after fighting Mayweather, he became more of a power puncher and showed more of a fan friendly style which Mayweather especially in his later years was criticized for not being.

 

Fact of the matter is that Mayweather is a better all around fighter than Canelo.

 

Yes.

 

Your boxing knowledge is defective because Floyd beat Canelo first before Canelo later beat Trout. Nobody said Canelo cannot box he just cannot box as well as Floyd there is a clear difference. Bing a bigger puncher does not make one a better boxer or fighter as shown by the history of boxing. Canelo did not show Floyd to much respect rather Floyd at age 36 beat Canelo at evety facet of the game at distance, mid range and on the inside. The difference between them was like night and day so stop making excuses that Canelo was a young 23. He had been a professional boxer for 8 years with over 40 fights, a reigning dominant undefeated world champion. Stylistically Canelo has never been a typical Mexican seek and destroy type rather more of a skilled counter puncher. He is a great fighter Floyd just much better and it was actually an easy fight for Floyd despite a judge making it even on the scorecards. Canelo did not make excuses instead he took his beating like a man and came back to achieve more ring glory.

 

which of your heroes did he slay?

 

You're the one defective thinking Canelo fought Mayweather first, then Trout. LOL.

 

it's like a constantly decaying level of accomplishment necessary to garner accolades from the mentally challenged and then accepted as contemporary standards. fuggit. i give up. i love big brother.

 

I may have got the date of the Trout fight wrong but this young inexperienced 23 year old as you claim had already had 7 world title fights and 6 world title defences and was a unified world champion going into the fight with Floyd who kicked his ass.

 

I’m a huge Canelo fan but unless he moves up to cruiser he doesn’t have the quality of opponents tho surpass Floyd, I mean Kovalev and GGG are the lot decorated fighters Canelo has fought meanwhile a guy like Judah is a former undisputed champ at Welter and unified champ and JWW might be just as decorated at the time and is an afterthought for Floyd.

must nkt Canelo’s fault per say just this generation of fighters overall don’t have the same drive as previous generation

 

"May have"? You called ME defective for pointing out that Canelo had already boxed well vs Trout which was before he fought Mayweather. You were brazenly wrong there, this certifies you as not knowing what you're talking about.

 

BOTH Canelo & Mayweather are PED's cheats, PROVEN Ped's cheats too
NEITHER are fit to be considered as ATG's or P4P . They both cheated to get unfair advantages & were allowed to do so by the State Commission
When was GGG ever caught cheating ?? NEVER
When was Pacquaio ever caught cheating NEVER
End of Story

 

Was Ivan Drago ever caught cheating in Rocky? Getting caught doesn't mean you're a cheat and not being caught doesn't mean you're not a cheat. You'd be naive to think that some fighters haven't gamed the system and get away with it. We don't know if GGG was taking someting before he became a big star in America and started getting tested. We have no idea. What Canelo tested for, trace amounts of clenbuterol, it not considered a doping violation by the WADA, due to the meat contamination problem. With Mayweather I'm guessing you are referring to the IV, which is technically is against the rules of the NSAC, so you can make that argument.

You are using bogus arugments to accuse people of cheating. Any way you slice it, these are not clear / bad examples of drug cheating. These are borderline situations that should be treated as such. I was appalled by Mayweather who ducked the Pacquiao fight by passively suggesting Pac may be on something and the sport needs Olympic style drug testing and all that. I do not think that blood testing is appropriate. I thought Mayweather was in the wrong for making the big stink about drug testing and avoiding the Pac fight. We ended up with a dud instead of the classic that the public deserved.

 

No one thinks that but pac fanatics

 

Yes The pac fanatics and idiots. You are correct.

 

I thought the mayweather canelo fight was a brilliant display from both fighters. I liked what canelo did - he tried to fight 3 or 4 different ways. Everybody else (every other money mayweather fight I've watched) comes jn with a single game plan, has some early success, mayweather survived, adapts and overcomes.

I think it would be a lot closer fight now P4P. Canelo would have more successes but I'd still take Mayweather.