If CANELO lands the same punch that dropped Trout on Floyd...

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  1. icha

    icha Active Member Full Member

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    floyd was hurted by old mosley and mosleys power is not the same as fighters like kirkland, alvarez, angulo or p.williams...
     
  2. SpeedKills

    SpeedKills Well-Known Member Full Member

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    bazza12 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    What has that got to do with my point?

    Alvarez swung and missed a lot Vs. Trout. Its as simple as that.

    As for Cotto, well that's a guy with god knows how much experience at world-level. Multiple title fights at mutiple weights. Alvarez has had one perhaps two fights of real significance and that Trout fight was a lot closer than the scorecards suggested.

    I'm not saying Canelo won't land, as you seem to suggest. But in the most part, he won't, and if he does, Mayweather won't have any more trouble with it than he did with Mosley.
     
  4. SUPER TROJAN

    SUPER TROJAN Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I think Money takes this fight. Will Canelo get a knock down in the process of losing? I hope so! It's possible considering how big he is.
    It would be good for boxing if people see that Mayweather can be hurt. This would drive up numbers for his next fight, specially if they put him up with the Lucas Matthysse/Danny Garcia winner. Both of those guys have some great knockout highlights to promote the fight. They could sell that one easily!
     
  5. Doc

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    Quincy you seriously got some mental problems, i point out attributes that Canelo has as a fighter. If you don't like just ignore it. You take this **** way to much to the heart, like im not allowed to talk about my fighter... ****ing **** you are pathetic.

    Canelo was doing great the whole fight and was the bigger guy in there, what happen to trout will be able to muscle him? the first clinches canelo was pushing trout back with ease. idiot. You said it all depended on if trout would be able to muscle canelo in the clinch and he was unable, dude barely could even land a damn shot on canelo just pity pat jabs. Canelo got in that ass all night.
     
  6. Dillyyo

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    Canelo definitely has skills and likes to fight in explosive bursts where each punch comes with bad intentions. Problem is this leads to muscle exhaustion faster than someone who variates power in their punches and he will probably be hard pressed to pull the trigger in the later rounds. Canelo's best chance, like most, is to catch Floyd with something damaging very early. Mid rounds and later will only see a fatiguing Canelo who is hesitant to throw his explosive punches because missing all but air causes one to get tired fast.
     
  7. Quincy K

    Quincy K Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    canelo was bigger than trout in the ring?

    you are the only one, other than your fellow canelo nuthuggers, that thinks that.

    hoe about you and I do a lifetime esb ban bet?

    ill take Floyd.

    you take the bigger, more muscular, going to be in Floyd **** all night, pushing Floyd, canelito.

    well, whats it going to be?

    you backing up your talk or you just sitting around here continuing to look like an idiot.

    youre the loudmouth, know-it-all in the bar and the only war to shut someone like you up is to offer a bet...as a guy like you rarely back it up.
     
  8. HawkFan16

    HawkFan16 Unshot/In My Prime Full Member

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    If he lands it, Floyd goes down. He'll weigh about 20 pounds less than Trout, and Floyd was almost knocked down by an ancient Mosley. Floyd won't have the extra weight Trout had, which helped him absorb some punches.

    Alvarez is without doubt the hardest puncher Floyd has fought since the badly faded 2007 DLH. Alvarez possesses superior handspeed and power to that version of Oscar, and if he can catch Floyd on the button with that right, Floyd will go down.

    It's a very thorny issue to actually catch Mayweather flush on the chin like he caught Trout though.
     
  9. john garfield

    john garfield Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    ...if the Queen had balls, she'd be the king
     
  10. Bazooka

    Bazooka Pimp C Wants 2 Be Me Full Member

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    Not really, People think Floyd is like Swe Pea not the case at all Floyd does get hit. Ndou who is much slower than Alvarez caught Floyd with a good right hand that momentarily buzzed him, Corley had some luck, Judah landed that nice right hook and good straight lefts that were landing, Oscar landed good shots Mosley got him with a good right hand, Marquez did land one that caught Floyds attention Cotto was able to nail him flush..

    So its not out of the question here Alvarez has the hand speed to find the mark and I believe he does and I believe in this fight Floyd hits the deck not saying he gets knocked the **** out but I do see him getting dropped
     
  11. Doc

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    You already have one going on, you don't lose anything for taking one with me. How about if I win you get someone to post a video on youtube getting your head cut off by a mexican narco? that would be sweet victory for me. :fire otherwise a ban bet is useless your dumb ass will be back with an ALT, you need Canelo in your life, you live for hating on him, all your posts revolve around hating! that **** ain't healthy grandpa. I don't take this ESB to seriously like you, thinking offering a ban bet makes you superior, your a dumb ass! peace.

    Also, My days on ESB are limited, this **** place has gone to ****, No Pictures, no Avatars, **** this **** I'm getting annoyed. The only reason I stay is because I'm established here, and I like a lot of posters, I also like you, your that little puppy that follows me around wherever I go, replying to me about canelo every single time... keep following me puppy and keep replying...:thumbsup
     
  12. JamesG1986

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    I give canelo a good chance of getting a knockdown, making it a close fight, but losing a decision. The thing that makes him so dangerous is that yes, he's young, strong, and pretty fast for a jmw...but he's not a typical mexican walk straight into you and just take 3 shots to land one. He thinks, he times you, he feels you out. I CANNOT WAIT for this fight.
     
  13. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    canelo may not have huge power, but he hits harder than floyd has ever been hit. floyd does not have an iron chin, he isnt glass jawed, but he wont stand up to shots like that. floyds best chance is to potshot, when he fights in close, he misses more than he lands. when floyd throws one punch at a time, he is very accurate, but both cotto and guerrero slipped most of the punches when floyd would flurry. canelo needs to come in with a gameplan for dealing with floyd fighting in a negative style, because there is no way floyd is going to trade with him.
     
  14. HawkFan16

    HawkFan16 Unshot/In My Prime Full Member

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    Oh, yeah, I agree. Just saying Floyd is more defensively responsible than Trout is. Most of Cotto's big connects were body shots or head jabs from what I remember.

    I think Alvarez can catch Floyd early when they're feeling out or later if Alvarez works Floyd's body and tires him out a bit, I'm just saying Floyd is harder to catch flush on the chin like Trout got hit than Trout is. Mosley if I remember correctly caught Floyd on the side of the head or temple when he rocked him, not the chin.

    Alvarez can definitely hit Floyd solidly somewhere on the head, and if it surprises Floyd and he doesn't see it coming/brace for impact, he can definitely go down. As I said earlier, Canelo is the hardest puncher Floyd has faced since badly faded 2007 Oscar, and is probably the 2nd fastest in handspeed behind Judah. Moreover, Canelo is calm and methodical and has good timing. He'll patiently wait for his chance or opening, I doubt he gets frustrated and flails like other guys have.
     
  15. Bazooka

    Bazooka Pimp C Wants 2 Be Me Full Member

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    Like I said #RespectFloyd my hat is off to him this is a very dangerous fight for him to take at this point in both his career and so early in his new contract with Showtime.
    My hat is off to him you wont hear me talking **** about him ducking challenges even if this fight is at 152 that isnt exactly a kill Canelo weight, basically to me in my eyes thats going to help Canelo come in to this fight tip top and ready to take that crown.

    I do believe we will see allot of what we saw from Canelo in the Trout fight here its the smartest way to fight Mayweather IMO