If Cooney Had Been Around In the 1940s?

Galento was the Tua of his day. If Cooney would struggle with Tua, then he would struggle with Galento

 

he'd probably be the Best of the Bigmen, i.e the Carnera & Baer and the taller than average HWs of the day...

Would he, could he still be beat by the Louis', Walcott's and Charles' sure, absolutely...

I think once they got him to serious title considerations, the key fight would be against the Big Strong Pole, Baksi, 'if' he beats Big Joe, then maybe a shot against Loius might come.

Who Knows???

 

Cooney was fed journeymen and past it names,he never got the chance to learn his craft.
He had no head movement and a porous defence,properly managed and trained he could have developed into an excellent fighter imo.
Less nobodies, and more fringe guys like;
L Spinks
Ocasio
Zanon
Evangelista
Ledoux
Cobb
Jones
Might have given him the chance to improve and hone his skills?

 

I'd probably make Cooney favourite over Baksi 10 to 15 lbs heavier,5 inches taller and a bigger puncher,but I would avoid him if possible.

 

this is the same thing I say about ALL 30 fight type Champions of recent decades and I always cite the Tarver, RJJ outcome...

as you say it was TOUGH back then and those fighters from back then Proved it Already, because they LIVED IT, it's done, it's already written History...

so ALL the 30 fight type Champions, that haven't had to meet a Tarver SOONER or Tough Fighters every month or so for years on end, well they Haven't Proved it, because in their day, this last good few Decades, they weren't required to Live It!!!

 

Avoidance should NOT be allowed, it is supposed to be a Sport, with Rules and Rights of Passage... fighting you're way into Contention and then working you're way into No.1 position and Championship Rights.

But of course it is NOT a Sport and it's History is both inaccurate & incomplete in many an instance, therefore Achievement Based Lists are a waste of time and more importantly WRONG.

H2H accessments is the ONLY Way to 'speculatively' Rate Fighters and on that note I might favour Big Joe, on the other hand I agree Cooney was capable and perhaps had more than how it finished for him.

But I'd mostly always favour the already tried and tested group as I mentioned in my previous post.

but again, Who Knows!

 

World champions have avoided dangerous opponents since the sport began.
Lesnevich avoided men.
Graziano avoided men.
Zale avoided men.
Mills avoided men.
Eubanks avoided men.
Cerdan avoided men.
Patterson was the poster boy for avoidance,until as an ex champ and free from that hypocrite D'Amato,he redeemed himself.
Where are all the top scalps on Vitali's resume?
How many top punchers did Marciano and Frazier face?
Literally dozens of fighters have avoided other fighters some like say, Lastarza blatantly .
Some have waited until these dangerous men were diminished in skills because of age.or were coming up in weight.I include Mayweather in this group.
Calzaghe was asked why he hadn't fought Jones and Hopkins earlier?
He replied," boxing is a business."
H2H? I'd favour Dempsey to take out Louis in 2 or 3 rounds,but does he have a greater legacy? NO.

Very, very few men have been okay with taking on anyone.imo
You could probably say under 30?
Greb,Langford,Duran,Walker,Ali,Loughran,B Leonard,Monzon,Wilde,Pep,Saddler,I Williams Basilio,Robinson,Canzoneri,SRL.Hearns,Hagler,Holyfield, Moore.

 

Who did Lesvenich avoid?

 

I think the point is that avoiding unpalatable opponents is nothing new. He cited enough examples to substantiate this whether Lesnevich did it or not

 

Cooney would be KO'd by Tua, but Galento is no Tua. Galento looked and fought like a Neanderthal. He probably would have weighed around 175-185 if he had a normal amount of body fat...and I don't believe he had the same kind of one-punch power as Tua. Tua carried his power into the later rounds better than Tony (Izon, Maskaev, for example).

Tua was far from great, but better than Galento, especially if you take the ridiculous amount of fouling out of the equation. Maybe I'm a little biased, because I thought Tony was an absolute knob in the ring, though he did seem like a decent guy later in life. I see him as a tough Journeyman, and not much else.

 

I agreed that this fact is the Way of Boxing, that was never in question, I said it should NOT be allowed, and because of it, it is NOT a Sport... and in many an instance some Top Contenders 'might' otherwise, be "the History".

also I agree with the Cooney possibility, but I would still bet Baksi.

 

How you people can't see that Galento was equal to Tua I have no idea.....

 

Galento was TKO'd in the 13th round by Marty Gallagher in 1934 in a bout scheduled for 15. Anybody know why this fight was scheduled for 15 rounds? Not seeing any title listed as being up for grabs in this one.