If Cotto Outboxed A Younger Mosley, Any Reason To Think Mayweather Can't Do The Same?

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  1. paulfv

    paulfv Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I want to be excited about the fight, but I keep coming back to the Cotto-Mosley bout of 2 years ago.

    I actually felt that Mosley squeaked out the victory, but the point still remains: If Miguel Cotto could out-slick a 36-year-old version of Shane Mosley, is there any valid reason to think Floyd Mayweather -- universally considered a better fighter than Cotto -- won't be able to do the same to a 38-year-old edition of Mosley?

    As much as I like Shane Mosley, I just can't see it. Especially at this advanced point in his outstanding career.
     
  2. El Cepillo

    El Cepillo Baddest Man on the Planet Full Member

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    It's not about just being 'better' though is it?

    Mayweather isn't as aggressive as Cotto, he doesn't throw as many punches, and certainly doesn't throw as much combinations. Style wise, there is massive difference between the two fighters, so much so that I think any comparison is pointless. I also think that Mosley's stamina against Cotto was at least as big a reason for the loss, as the tactics Cotto adapted.
     
  3. paulfv

    paulfv Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That's a great point. Cotto had to gain Shane's respect and fight a war early in the bout. Maybe Mayweather will wilt under a similar assault, if Shane is still capable of mounting one at 38.

    Shane is a gamer. He will put it all out there, that's for sure. Just not sure he has much of a realistic shot here. I hope I'm wrong.
     
  4. Cobra33

    Cobra33 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Thank god someone finally posts something good.And lets not forget MAYORGA was outboxing Shane in spots as well.
     
  5. janeschicken

    janeschicken hard work! deadicayshin! Full Member

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    Shane has the whole world fooled based on his fight with Margarito, I've been saying this all along.
     
  6. Zaryu

    Zaryu Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Different fighters but applicable stylistic comparisons. Mayweather also doesn't get hit as much as Cotto. He's quicker and he actually has better stamina than Cotto, so if throwing more punches is what he needs, that's what he'll do.

    I'm with the TS, I'm not saying because Cotto beat Mosely Floyd will do the same. I'm saying Cotto was surprisingly able to out slick Mosley in certain parts of their fights and Floyd being a lot slicker and expirienced makes you wonder how Shane will really cope with that. I understand Shane is much better prepared for this fight, but I think the point still stands.
     
  7. Dorfmeister

    Dorfmeister Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Cotto did outjab Shane clearly and slipped in some right hands over Shane's right shoulder and some left hooks kinda leading short hooks like Floyd likes to throw. Happens that Shane was focused on fighting Cotto off, not on boxing his ears off. He was focused on outslicking a slickster like Collazo and he beat him 10 rounds to 2. It depends on how you approach on a fight. I would guarantee you that Shane wouldn't be outjabbed by Cotto again and I can say that Shane will be willing to let his hands go tonight.
     
  8. El Cepillo

    El Cepillo Baddest Man on the Planet Full Member

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    I think if Shane is at his best and starts strongly, he could win a close, possibly contrversial decision, but I'm about 70% sure Mayweather is going to win a comfortable UD. Shane was never as good as Floyd, so I don't really see how the near-40 year old version of Mosley can win. Hope I'm wrong though, I'd like to see it at least be close and exciting. Doubt it will be though.
     
  9. El Cepillo

    El Cepillo Baddest Man on the Planet Full Member

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    Shane was expecting a fight against Cotto, and what he got was a boxing match. Shane knows EXACTLY what to expect from FMJ. This will be an advantage.
     
  10. Undisputed520

    Undisputed520 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Cotto is much more aggressive and applies constant pressure... Mosley was simply going for the KO and he HAD NO CORNER!!! Richardson will be a big factor tonight. Mosley is gonna try to make Floyd fight every second of every round I feel.
     
  11. Cobra33

    Cobra33 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Janeschicken hit it right on the head-everyone got fooled by Shane in the Margarito bout.
     
  12. lefty

    lefty Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Cotto was different to Floyd though, Cotto is one handed and fights with an awkward rythym. Floyds left is top notch obviously but its not quite the weapon that Cottos is. I think Cottos one handedness threw Mosley off early in their fight and it took him a little while to adjust, so comparisons between Cotto and mayweather should be thrown out in my opinion. I have to admit that as this fight gets close im starting to give Mosley more of a chance, I don't know if Mayweather can discourage him with his power enough to really let his obvious skill advantage shine through.
     
  13. lefthook89

    lefthook89 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    this is nothing more than a mere attempt to take away floyds victory if he beats mosley, and its quite pathetic considering the pre-fight history before margarito/mosley. for one thing, he didn't "fool" anybody. if anything, its margarito that fooled you. shane mosley was a 4:1 underdog going into that fight for a reason, nobody thought shane mosley would've been able to handle margarito's persistent pressure and iron will. So for you to act totally unsuprised that mosly beating the living hell out of margarito, is nothing more than a means to downgrade floyd if he beats mosley. but you cant re-write history, and history tells us nobody gave mosley nothing more than a punchers chance going into that fight. facts are facts
     
  14. Cobra33

    Cobra33 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Take away your mans victory?Little boy I came up when the Legends fought eachother not this bull**** you have now.What a great victory over against a close to 40 year old fighter who you are going to tell me he isn't that faraway from his prime right?Actually do you think Mosley is close to his prime lefthook?
     
  15. Bazooka

    Bazooka Pimp C Wants 2 Be Me Full Member

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    Style wise Cotto and Floyd are totally different, in terms of taking risk Cotto is more willing to step inside and risk getting hit to mix it up a bit...
    Cotto won that fight, but it could have gone to shane it was that close this was also pre margarito and pre pacquiao so Cotto was still fresh...
    Cotto has also shown he knows how to deal with speed pretty darn good....
    Floyd is a different type of fighter you know it and I know it, he does not really mix it up all that much he looks to counter punch and thats about it...
    if DLH and Castillo had enough to make the fight with Floyd interesting Shane can defently match that,,,,,, if Judahs speed was enough to off set Floyd in the first 3 or 4 rounds, Shanes will as well....
    like it or not Floyd is going to have to fight tonight.... Shane is taking him deep lets see how real Mayweather is.... I dont mind a Floyd win as long as its done the right way...