If Cotto 'quit' v Margo, why did Hatton not quit v PBF??

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  1. Sinew

    Sinew The Assassin Full Member

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    Yep
     
  2. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    I'm not slandering anyone. Taking two voluntary knees and motioning to your corner that you've had enough is akin to quitting. It's really irrelavent that his uncle threw in the towel. What if he went to his corner and told Uncle Evangelista that he didn't want to fight anymore and then Evangelista threw out the towel? Technically, Evangelista would've stopped the fight but.. you know what, why am I even bothering. You're not going to get it anyway. You don't understand that saying that someone quit does not mean that you are putting them down. He fought bravely, but he just didn't feel he could continue and forced the stoppage. Once again, Vasquez quit in that first fight with Marquez. Most people don't see that as a negative given the circumstances.
     
  3. Florida boy

    Florida boy Bodacious Full Member

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    i dont think its absurd, Cotto took a beating, but he took one knee, gets up, gets swarmed again, takes a knee and looks to his corner, who then get up and wave the towel. it looked like he quit, lots of people think he quit, its an opinion, just like your opinion.
     
  4. ron u.k.

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    it's amazing that these two fighters can be remotely tainted as quitters,especially by keyboard warriors.there is a guy,who once again to me i would never label a quitter,but on here got away scott free from being given that label,and it was tszyu against hatton.
     
  5. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    Ron U.K, there is a difference between being labled a quitter and quitting. Tszyu quit, Cotto quit, Vasquez quit, and Morales quit. However, I wouldn't label any of them quitters. A quitter gives up too easily, they have a pattern of quitting. A guy giving up after giving their all before realizing they have nothing left is not a quitter. Look at the UFC. Guys quit all the time(via tapout). However, that doesn't mean that they are quitters. That's the problem with this whole debate. Too many people automatically think that because you say that someone quit that you're labeling them a quitter and trying to put them down. That's not neccesarily the case.
     
  6. hitman_hatton1

    hitman_hatton1 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    hatton only stayed down when he saw the ref wave it. :hi:
     
  7. lewishamboy

    lewishamboy Styles Impetuous Full Member

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    1 big difference.

    Hatton fell over trying to sidestep across the ring. Immediate stoppage in any ref's book.

    Cotto backed away across the ring, seemingly with sturdy legs and decent balance, and then took another knee.


    :patsch :patsch :patsch
     
  8. lewishamboy

    lewishamboy Styles Impetuous Full Member

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    It WAS the direct result of a punch you moron...the same punch that sent Hatton flying into the turnbuckle at breakneck speed!!!
     
  9. ron u.k.

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    hatton fell back for the second knock down basically because his legs gave way and were gone.that's pretty blatantly obvious.
     
  10. joecaldragon

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  11. DINAMITA

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    Cheers amigo for the comments bout my Open Letter thread, and cheers in general, but I have watched the 2nd knockdown of the Mayweather-Hatton fight about 1000 times in the past 48 hours, and I still believe that it's not a purely 100% physical thing, there is a split-second recognition in Hatton's mind that if he takes another punch he's gone, and he makes a split-second reflex decision to allow the physical effects he is suffering to overwhelm his resistance. His body reacts to mental futility. But I'm cool with being the only ******* in this forum who thinks so! Neither man quit.

    The End
     
  12. joecaldragon

    joecaldragon Guest

    Ha ha, you are ****in determined to get the last word eh??

    The Bitter End!! :hey
     
  13. chino2dapiapimp

    chino2dapiapimp WBC Fecarbox champ Full Member

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    The reason Hatton didn't quit is because he was fighting Floyd not ANtonio. Im sure if Cotto would have fought Floyd he wouldn't quit...He'd be celebrating his victory
     
  14. moneymayweather

    moneymayweather Active Member Full Member

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    Cotto could NOT beat Floyd. How do people not understand this???
     
  15. LiamE

    LiamE Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I am with you Reg. Quitters dont make it to high level boxing. A quitter spits his gumshield out after taking the first shot. A guy that gives his best and has nothing left and decides enough is enough is not a quitter even though he quit.

    I would not label anyone that has boxed at high level a quitter though many of them have at one time or another quit in a fight for one reason or another. Quiting is only an issue if the fighter could have given more.

    The MMA anology for me sums it up.