If Cotto 'quit' v Margo, why did Hatton not quit v PBF??

Hatton fell over from the punch(s) he took just before - looked like his legs had gone to me. He tried to move to the side and it just didnt happen.

Did Cotto quit? Technically no, his corner pulled him out. But they did that as he knew he was beaten and was taking knees to buy time. Cotto had "game over" written across his face. When Frazier was stopped by his corner he never spoke to them again. I bet Cotto was not unhappy about his corner's actions. Make of that what you will.

 

Pacfan, are you blind as well? Hatton got hit flush with a vicious left hook straight to the temple(moments after being kd and sent head first into a turnbuckle). What you saw was a delayed reaction. He went down from the left hook. He was on his back for several minutes. Let's also not forget that the ref held Floyd back while Hatton was clearly defenseless and out on his feet; ready to hit the canvas. This is a ******ed example, and in no way helps your argument.

 

I find it strange that you think this is a valid comparison.

 

If you compare Hattons stoppage and Cotto staying down after the first knee then we wouldn't be having this conversation, both men went down from fatigue and an acclumination of punches, you can see both are going to lose, the Cotto stoppage just looked more dramatic, more of a choice, retreating across the ring and falling at Margos knees.

 

Those two examples couldn't be more different. Hatton was knocked off his feet, and then as he tried to move backwards he fell over and the fight was stopped because he was clearly in no fit state to continue.

Cotto was fine to carry on, his legs were good enough to carry him across the ring so he could voluntarily take another knee without even taking a shot, he just didn't want any more of Margarito and i don't blame him for it, but he could have carried on if he had the heart. I'm not saying he doesn't have heart at all, he showed heart by getting up at all, he just didn't have enough of it to see out the fight.

 

Hatton was rocked so badly by the first punch he really couldn't tell up from down at that point. I think his legs just buckled when he tried to get away from Floyd's followup assault, he did not go down willingly. If you watch Hatton carefully when he's hurt he really loses his legs and stumbles all over the place.

Cotto, on the other hand, has great balance even when hurt and is pretty good at not showing his pain when stunned. He's also much better(smarter) at surviving after getting badly hurt than someone like Hatton. He throws huge and accurate counters to keep people off of him when he is badly hurt rather than just backing up against the ropes with his hands up which has allowed him to survive guys like Torres.
If you remember the Torres brawl, Cotto was probably several big shots from getting knocked out cold but never took a knee to buy time. In that fight it was still in the early rounds and he had full use of his legs and belief in his power which was clearly not the case vs. Margarito. Against Margo he was hurt several times in the fight and totally exhausted to the point where he couldn't even keep his hands up.
I think a lesser fighter would have succumbed to the punishment much earlier and I was surprised he was able to last as long as he did and rally back at points to win(round 8 and most of round 10 till he was almost knocked out). What's probably more impressive is that Cotto is NOT a physically durable fighter like Clottey or Williams and survives often with just sheer determination.

The bottomline is if Cotto has to take a knee he's completely finished already. He's just one of those fighters that can think well even when hurt and probably tried to buy some time sort of like Corrales did by spitting the mouthpiece out several times. Fortunately for him when he did it the second time his uncle was on the apron already and took the decision out of his hands.

 

What happend to cotto was karma from the beating he gave judah and the low blows he used on various opponents in the past whenenever he got in trouble,god works in mysterious ways.

 

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it's amazing how people have brought hatton into the discussion regarding this fight.there was another post the other day titled where did margarito's win leave hatton! now they're mentioning hatton and quitting in the same sentence because some perceive that cotto quit! what's ricky got to do with all this?

 

There is no comparison to be made, in one instance the ref stepped in and decided for the fighter and his team. In the other the fighter took two voluntary knees, looked at his corner and they bailed him out.

 

Hatton couldn't have continued even if he wanted to. Cotto could have. It's as simple as that.