If Crawford beats Canelo he is the P4P Goat

Have a word with yourself.

This is LAUGHABLE.


Mike destroyed Julian Jackson.

He beat PRIME versions of Herol Graham, Micheal Watson and Sumbu Kalambay.

He beat Steve Collins.


What does Terence have??

An end of career, faded Khan.

A shot Brook, with no punch resistance.

Burns.

Gamboa

Spence?


Get real.


Mike drew with a PRIME James Toney, where many, many people believe that he won.


You are so high on Terence, it is clouding your judgement.


Mike systematically breaking down a prime Michael Watson was better than anything Terence has done.

Beating Jackson, Graham, Kalambay and Collins, is better than Burns, Khan and Gamboa etc.


Start a thread.

Do a poll.


Mike took on better fighters.

Prime fighters.

Tougher stylistic fights.


Mike has the superior resume, 100%.

There is nothing overly impressive about Terence’ resume.

 

It is not similar.

Stop exaggerating his resume.

Roy beat:

Castro
Malinga
Hopkins
Toney
McCallum
Griffin
Del Valle
Hill
Reggie
Hall
Harding
Gonzalez
Woods
Tarver
Ruiz


Terence does NOT have a comparable resume.

 

First....why would a retirement fight be less important if the name is a "sexy name"..... A big name is a big name right. Why is the standard different for Crawford. Other greats fought big names on their way out the door and they don't get discredited.

Ugas beat Pacquiao in his only big win.... No one is discrediting him for beat at 43 year old.

Pacquiao beat the breaks off of Oscar De La Hoya....anyone discrediting that win.

Floyd fought Mosely, Hatton, Gatti, Berto, & Maidana well after the peak of their careers.....do you discredit any of those wins....

The names I mentioned, how were any of those name "retirement" fights worthy of discrediting in you response, but you missed the point I made. I'm not sure how Gamboa was a retirement fight.....undefeated, top 5 p4p when he fought Crawford. Then fought for almost another decade after the loss. Had 2 more title bouts during that time. Khan & Brook fought each other after losing to Crawford.... It was reported that 15 million people over there watched that "average at best" card. Ricky Burns had his entire nation and government behind him for the Crawford fight. I mean really....Please make an argument for Danny Garcia or any of the other names followed by American fans being bigger here in the states......

Are you calling the Porter fight a retirement fight because he chose to retire afterwards. That would be fair if Crawford wasn't a big reason for him choosing to hang up the gloves. I follow his podcast. Before that fight was mandated by the WBO.... Porter was discussing his options of rematching Thurman, Ugas, & Spence. Even talked about possibly moving up to 160. After getting stopped by Crawford, he retires and people tried to make it seem like he had planned to do that all along.

It's hilarious the energy used by so many fans to belittle any and everything that is Crawford. None of them can answer the question of why the boxing pundits don't agree with their hatred of Crawford's career. He's been top 5 p4p for a decade now and has stopped all of his opponents during that time before this last fight. 3x Lineal, 2x Undisputed. And still to this day is THE ONLY ACTIVE FIGHTER to participate in the Fist Casting process at the Hall of Fame Ceremony back in 2022. That's something that ONLY VOTED IN HALL OF FAMERS participate in.

How is it he gets ultimate respect from the former greats and his elite peers....but goofy fans want to try and claim he's done nothing because they are ignorant of the careers of his opponents?

 

There’s no ‘maybe’

 

It is.

I agree.

But if a fighter doesn’t have a prime ATG win, then to be even considered as being the GOAT, he has to instead have a STACKED resume full of HOF fighters etc.

Floyd is the perfect example of this.

He also had past and former HOF and ATG fighters.


Yet Terence has neither.

Terence hasn’t got a win over a prime ATG.

But he also hasn’t got a stacked resume of other fighters like what Floyd has.


So that leaves him out in the cold.

 

You’re all over the place.


1. That version of Spence wasn’t better than Hopkins.

2. You’ve just said that Spence wasn’t better than Toney. So yeah, Terence beat Spence easier, as he was a lesser fighter.

 

This I do agree with.

It’s not the same Canelo.

Terence will rightly receive huge plaudits if he wins.

 

He would have a huge win. But the rest of his resume would still be subpar to many other guys.

So even with a Canelo win, nobody could claim him to have an amazing resume.

It just wouldn’t be deep enough.

 

Let’s compare them then.

List his best wins.

I’ll list Roy’s.

There’s no way that Terence has a better group of wins.

 

Mayweather was 36 years old at the end of his career fighting at his worst weightclass against a younger fighter who outweighed him by 15 pounds on fight night.

The catchweight excuse is nonsense Canelo weighed a grand total of 1 pound less than he did in his previous fight.

 

Neither are any of Crawford's opponents "great".

 

Refute it then who on Crawfords resume is historically better than Reggie Johnson ? He would certainly be a top 3 win for Crawford easily.

 

A car crash victim who had been inactive and suffered neurological damage is better than Hopkins and Hill lol ok buddy.

 

Uhh Toney knocked out undefeated Michael Nunn who was top 3 P4P that's better than a controversial decision win over Golovkin.

 

Of course they are.

Prime Nunn
Prime Reggie
McCallum, who was still GREAT.
Barkley
Littles
Jirov etc.

Canelo has a deep resume.

But no wins better than wins over Nunn and McCallum.