If Crawford beats Canelo he is the P4P Goat

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  1. Joeywill

    Joeywill Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I wouldn't be so confident

    Many boxing fans (myself included) didn't give Usyk a very good chance at beating Fury or Joshua

    I don't think that Opetia will do as well at heavyweight as Usyk because he's not as good defensively but Usyk and Holyfield have shown that great cruiserweights can become great heavyweights
     
  2. KiwiMan

    KiwiMan Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Fair point, you are correct and I should have worded it differently. I do think Usyk has been giving up more size than Crawford though.
     
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  3. Cojimar 1946

    Cojimar 1946 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    There's every chance. Id even favor him.
     
  4. JunlongXiFan

    JunlongXiFan 45-6 in Kirks Chmpionshp Boxing Predictions 2022 Full Member

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    >Gamboa top 5 p4p

    If that’s true he’s gotta be the worst guy to ever enter a p4p list. Paper champ level fighter. Champion only at 126, never even won a title in the division Crawford beat him in
     
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  5. Grinder

    Grinder Dude, don't call me Dude Full Member

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    Canelo and Crawford are the most overrated fighters of our time by their respective clans. Canelo has avoided any risks for years, losing 12 rounds against Bivol, ducking many dangerous opponents and losing clearly yet receiving gifts from Suliman. Crawford fought the first guy his size and was clearly no p4p fighter, unless Madrimov is a P4P fighter?

    This is a money fight. The result is irrelevant in the context of boxing history.
     
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  6. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Yes, it’s all subjective.

    But the point is:

    Other ATG’s have beaten fellow ATG’s. Who themselves have beaten other ATG’s.

    Therefore, they’re all proven at that level.

    Now Terence may have been able to have beaten Floyd, Leonard and Hearns etc.

    But as of yet, Terence hasn’t proven that he can beat guys of that calibre.
     
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  7. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Again, the point is:

    We have lots of proof of where ATG’s have beaten fellow ATG’s.
     
  8. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Yes, there’s no right answer.

    But again, a guy who has no wins over an ATG, or a deep resume, can’t even be in contention.
     
  9. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    He has to try and build up Terence’ resume.

    Look what he’s said about Porter etc.
     
  10. senpai

    senpai Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yeah, but there are people who will never give him the credit, no matter what.

    Imagine the shock and saddness of these MF'ers if he stops Canelo
     
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  11. balunggays

    balunggays New Member Full Member

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    Bud could not even win against a juorneyman Madrimov so how he even stopped Canelo?
     
  12. Joeywill

    Joeywill Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Spence, Porter, Horn, Jose Benavidez, Amir Kahn, Kell Brook and Postol weren't Crawfords size ?
     
  13. Joeywill

    Joeywill Well-Known Member Full Member

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    When has Mayweather beaten someone at Prime Crawfords caliber?

    Why isn't the same question asked back in reverse?
     
  14. Joeywill

    Joeywill Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Would be crazy.

    They'd say "Canelo was shot"
     
  15. Joeywill

    Joeywill Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Now Madrimov is a journeyman haha

    You guys will say anything to discredit Crawford
     
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