If Dawson can beat Ward, he can do what only Joe Calzaghe has done

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  1. purephase

    purephase Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Dawson is actually lineal at 175 though, something Calzaghe never accomplished since he blatantly ducked elite European Erdei.
     
  2. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Has Dawson fought him then? :lol:
    Who did Dawson beat for that status? A Calzaghe leftover :hi:
     
  3. purephase

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    Calzaghe, whilst clearly dodging Zsolt Erdei, defeated a green at 175 Hopkins, as that was merely his third fight at the weight since coming up from 160 and he was still learning his craft. Dawson defeated a peak light heavyweight Hopkins who was actually the lineal light heavyweight champion at the time, plus hasn't been ducking elite European talent such as the Romanian standout Adrian "The Shark" Diaconu.
     
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  5. ajackman1

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    Did you say Chris Eubank an ATG ? :lol::lol::lol: Eubank was never close to being an ATG. Plus he was Washed up when Cazlaghe fought him

    Calzaghe fought a completely shot and Old Jones. His win over Jones was meaningless. Calzaghe even admitted to avoiding a Prime Jones.

    He barely beat a 42 year old Hopkins. Many people felt Calzaghe was lucky to win

    Lacy was hypejob. Ward beat Kessler and Bika aswell. He beat Abraham who had 14 World title fights. He has a Very Solid win over a Froch. Froch also has better resume than Calzaghe. He now Beat Dawson. Ward only 28 and he already has passed Calzaghe.

    Calzaghe has not beat a Prime ATG either.
     
  6. general zod

    general zod World Champion Full Member

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    :lol::lol:
     
  7. bailey

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  8. Auracle21

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    Ward is King. Failey is mad lol.
     
  9. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    What like he did Pascal beaten by old Hopkins
    Dirrell who was KOd by a former MW
    Kessler who was coming off a loss and well past his best, with double vision
    A MW in Abraham
    Johnson an old SMW journeyman

    Tell me who did Froch beat as good as F Liles?
     
  10. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Who is this Failey?:huh

    I agree Ward is current king, he reigns over Calzaghes leftovers and fighters that have losses dating back to Calzaghe
     
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  13. bailey

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  14. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Read on and I have video proof that you dont

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    6:45 in. "For 2 years Calzaghe has chased pound for pound number one Roy Jones, but to no avail".
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    *THIS VIDEO IS ON YOUTUBE: 'Roy Jones jr looks ahead to Calzaghe'*

    Steve Bunce: When did Joe first pop up in a conversation?

    Roy Jones: When he beat Chris Eubank I started watching him then.

    Steve Bunce: 1997

    Roy Jones: I knew it then...but he then kinda backed down on the opponents he was fighting so I RELEASED THE IDEA OF IT [fighting Joe].

    So Jones admits he was aware of Joe early on, but wasn't interested in fighting him.


    BBC, 21st November 2001.
    "It's all very well being the best in the world, but you need big names for big fights," he reflects.

    A fight with the Eric Lucas, the WBC champion, is a possibility, but unification fights are notoriously hard and expensive to arrange.

    As is a bout with Roy Jones.

    "To be honest I'm getting quite fed up with it," Calzaghe said.

    A bout against the undisputed light heavyweight champion has been the subject of ongoing speculation.

    "It's difficult because of the different networks involved. He's with HBO and I'm with Showtime - that's a massive obstacle in itself.

    "Secondly, you've got to ask yourself whether Roy Jones would want to fight me.
    "At the moment he picks his own opponents, fights the easiest guys he can and gets a lot of money for beating them.

    "I'm dangerous and I can take the mega money out of his pocket. Why would he want to fight me?


    Jones himself made the statement that he did not go fight him because it was too risky be it in the UK or states...he stated that on National TV while commentating on Calzaghe/Hopkins those words exactly get a copy of the fight and find out yourself....If Jones said it himself then any argument you have is out the window because Jones stated nothing about why should I have...I was ranked #1 he was ranked # whatever he said...IT WAS TOO RISKY FOR ME AT THAT TIME ESPECIALLY IF I HAD TO GO TO THE UK... he added nothing in on it....


    roy jones the man who fought Richard Frazier the part time cop and then bragged about his greatness afterward....

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    Former four-division champion Roy Jones Jr, speaking with The Sunday Times, responded to Joe Calzaghe's recent claim of chasing Jones for several years and being brushed aside. Calzaghe spoke with The Sunday Mirror and appeared to have some newfound hostility when Jones' name came up.

    "I spent five or six years chasing Jones and he acted like he never even knew my name," said Calzaghe. "Suddenly, I beat Hopkins in Vegas and Jones wants to be my neighbor - it's ridiculous. If a fight with Jones made sense from a cash point of view, then it could happen, but he is notorious for asking for too much money."

    Jones says that he viewed Calzaghe as a possible opponent several years ago, but at the time he saw no reason to travel to Wales to chase the fight. Now that Calzaghe is the bigger star, Jones is willing to make the fight anywhere.

    “I saw Joe as a potential opponent a long time ago,” Jones said. “But I had my eyes on higher things, such as winning the heavyweight title, so it was nothing against Joe, I love everything about him. He’s a fun guy, an entertaining guy, a good person. We took some pictures together with his sons after the fight on Saturday and we’ve talked on the phone. But boxing is business. When I was the best pound-for-pound boxer in the world it wouldn’t have been smart for me to go and fight Joe.

    ”You don’t go to somebody else when you’re the best, they must come to you, so I wouldn’t take the risk, and why would I? Why would I meet that challenge when I’m already the best? Why would I go to your country and give you a chance to allow the powers that be to take a close decision and give it to you?"

    Jones says a fight with Calzaghe is the best fight in boxing, even better than a possible rematch between Oscar De La Hoya and Floyd Mayweather Jr, scheduled for September.

    “But right now this is the best fight out there, better than the Oscar De La Hoya-Floyd Mayweather rematch because we all know what the outcome of that fight is going to be – another win for Floyd. You don’t know the outcome of this fight, however, so it’s a fight people are going to want to see. There’s suspense, and that’s what makes for a big fight," Jones says.

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