If Deontay Wilder had trained with Freddie Roach throughout his career?

If freddie was his trainer he,d have been smart enough to train him like breland did.

Maliks inexperience failed him from the start imo. With the best will in the world you cant turn wilder into a great boxer.

Give him a good jab. Work on disguising the right hand. Get him a little bit heavier and stronger. Work on keeping distance and away you go. Not far off what breland did.

Although i still suspect wilders right hand/arm/shoulder is injured or wrecked through previous injury.

 

Wilder started boxing in a place without a lot of boxing gyms and trainers (Alabama), he also was not a child when he started. Whoever trained him initially did not concentrate on boxing fundamentals. Wilder had length, strength, power, speed, stamina, etc. so he was able to win without fundamentals over physically out matched opponents. When he aged and became less active, like all fighters who rely on physical gifts and lack fundamentals he became more vulnerable. He didn't have the fundamentals to fall back on and when the speed and reflexes slowed he wasn't the same. If Wilder had walked into a gym that stressed fundamentals and technique when he was 14 he might have been a better boxer, but he might not have been as exciting to watch.

The Wilder we saw was a fighter who didn't worry about the scoring, he didn't participate in a "boxing match", he used his physical gifts to avoid punishment until he could land something big of his own. If he had been better trained and started earlier he might have gotten more respect from boxing purists, but he became champion, was undefeated for a long time, and knocked everybody out anyway. He also made a lot of money. Sometimes physical talent will take someone a long way.

 

The revisionism around Wilder is insane. He was legitimately one of the top two fighters in the world at one point, now he's a bum, was never that good etc, because of two losses, when he's a shot fighter.

I don't think anyone today would've beaten Wilder in his prime except Fury and probably Usyk (Usyk's likely the favorite but could get nailed with that right hand).

 

Even a great trainer can't give you talent. Wilder is very athletic and has that big right hand, but otherwise, he has no talent for boxing whatsoever. I can see him succeeding in basketball or as a track and field athlete much easier than seeing him becoming a skilled and complete fighter.

 

My oh my, the more I read about wilder being untrainable and self taught, him having no skills etc and just relying on his natural gifts, he must have been a genius!

To have achieved what he’s achieved, all teaching himself from such a late age and not taking advice from anyone else and to gain so much wealth….we must give him massive credit. he is special.
AJ needed Rob McCracken and Eddie Hearn.
Fury needed his uncle and family to teach him from birth.
Wilder had more world championships fights than both and needed nobody but himself.
Even Ali needed Dundee.


that is greatness


(This is sarcasm by the way, u guys are crazy haters)

 

Yoel Judah would have been the perfect fit. They would understand eachother. Yoel would give advice like"LOOK! YA GOT TO, LISTEN, JUST GO UNDER, BANG, LOOK, MAN JUS BAM, THEN UGH, COME ON MAN". Wilder would have been unbeatable.