If Eastern euros could've turned pro before the communist collapse.

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Its been 20 years since the Berlin Wall fell & the only division Eastern Euros have done well in is the HW division, which is currently in a terrible state.

 

euros fight like predictable robots

 

Say what? That's just simply not true.

There's top EEs in almost every division and there's tons of soon-to-be champs, top prospects, in all divisions.

Kovlaev, GGG, Gradovich, Darchiniyan, etc etc


Stop trolling

 

Are posters on this website really this ignorant? Tell that to robots Sergey Kovalev and GGG when they become undisputed/lineal champs of their respective divisions

 

Eastern Euros werent even dominating the amateur levels before the collapse of the soviet union! What makes you think they would have dominated the pros?

Heavyweight(later "Super" heavyweight) Olympic champions to the fall of the Soviet Union.
1948 Rafael Iglesias(Argentina)
1952 Ed Sanders(USA)
1956 Pete Rademacher (USA)
1960 Franceso Di Piccoli (Italy)
1964 Joe Frazier (USA)
1968 George Foreman (USA)
1972 Teofilo Stevenson (Cuba)
1976 Teofilo Stevenson (Cuba)
1980 Teofilo Stevenson (Cuba)
1984 Tyrell Biggs (USA)
1988 Lennox Lewis (Canada)

So where were all these Soviet monsters???

 

If the eastern European countries had competed professionally I don't think it would have changed much at all.

Just look at the list of Olympic heavyweight and super heavyweight champions throughout history. Wlad was the first to have Olympic success in 96, prior to that Olympics heavyweight and super heavyweight titles were not dominated by any eastern European countries.

Eastern European heavyweights competed with the rest of the world for decades at an amateur level with little success so the evidence doesn't suggest they would have had much success professionally based upon this.

Fact is based upon Olympic success the Eastern European heavyweights have gotten better in recent years and America and Cuba have declined in the last 20 years.

 

Boxing and pro sport in general has lured hungry men all over the world into the game.

It's not a matter of genetics, and anyone who thinks it is DKSA sociology. It's about hunger. A well fed child don't have to fight as a man.

Food stamps ruined american athletics.

Breadlines held back former soviet fighters.

Simple as that.:good

 

The only division that has an EE as #1 is heavyweight & Golovkin is Asian.

I'm not trolling just stating facts, stop crying.

 

Kazachstan is still a former Communist Sovjet Republic, so Golovkin counts as one of the fighters mentioned by the op.
So are many of the current "Germans", a couple of "Americans", the Polaks, the Serbs etc.

Maybe the champs of earlier times still would have been champs (a lot of them at least), but boxing history would at least have looked a lot different. And the competition had been a lot stronger.

 

Thread title "If Eastern euros......" Kazakhstan is in central Asia, not eastern Europe.

Golovkin is Asian not European so he shouldn't be included in this discussion.

 

But you know what the op actually means... If the boxers from the former communistic states would have gone pro, it would have had a huge impact in boxing history.

And then we're not even talking Cuba here.

 

It was banned by Castro, though Cuba will have a WSB team next season

 

Communistic... no pro sports allowed period.
But I believe they finally allow it now, after seeing all their stars defect and big brother China allowing it too.

 

They weren't dominating the amateurs because amateur boxing was not a big deal in the USSR. The numbers of people involved in boxing in the US was much greater than in the USSR (it's not even comparable) and the level of competition much higher. In the US, the amateurs were a stepping stone to the pros, so there was a lot of participation in the amateurs. In the USSR, there was no pro boxing and the rewards for getting into amateur boxing were miniscule.