If Fedor did this

Discussion in 'MMA Forum' started by jimmie, May 8, 2008.


  1. Ubersteve

    Ubersteve The Main Event Mafia Full Member

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    Barnett is a much bigger legacy fight than Couture, imo.
     
  2. Wilhelm

    Wilhelm Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Huh. Well ****, I'd still like to see Fedor vs. Couture. I suspect that if they made that fight you'd all be amped about it too in the month beforehand.
     
  3. Ubersteve

    Ubersteve The Main Event Mafia Full Member

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    Oh, for sure I'd be amped about it. But at heavy Randy has a good win over Sylvia and a win over Gonzaga, who evidence since Cro Cop suggests isn't that good. I just don't think Randy would be a Barnett or Noguiera calibre name on Fedor's resume.
     
  4. codeman99998

    codeman99998 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    So, in terms of boxing Floyd Mayweather was the Welterweight champ before he beat Baldomir?

    Rampage was the LHW champion before he beat Lidell a second time? Or was he not champion yet until he beat Henderson? Even after his loss to Griffin, many think Shogun is the best LHW fighter and he already beat Jackson once. Is Rua the true LHW champion?

    GSP was still the champion after he lost to Serra the first time? Did the championship switch to someone else besides Serra when GSP lost? If so, who did it switch to? Jon Fitch seems the next in line at 170, so did he become champion after GSP lost? And if he did, does that mean that GSP isn't the champion again until he beats Fitch, or did he regain the title by beating Serra again?

    It's too complicated and subjective to rate the "champion" by who you think is the best at any particular time.
     
  5. ufoalf

    ufoalf Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Calm down a lil'.

    Yea, "true champion" is subjective but generally accepted I would say. I believe most people believed GSP was better than Serra at all times even after he lost. I believe when Sylvia was a champ of UFC and Fedor was champ of Pride people believed Fedor was better. I think when Klitchko was holding 1 belt everyone believed he was THE champion or i would say "true champion". He's the best in the division. Yes, its subjective.

    If there's any difference between true champion and champion it's got to be subjective. There's no other way. Otherwise Brian Stann is a champion and a true champion... i mean how would u differentiate it?
     
  6. Beebs

    Beebs Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Well a non true champion would be somebody with a worthless belt, a true champion would be the guy with the universally recognized championship. You could call Stann "the champion" of the WEC, but otherwise he is just another champion in mma.

    GSP wasn't the true champion until he won the rematch, if he was, why even bother to have the fights at all?
     
  7. ufoalf

    ufoalf Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Cause having the belt is what brings you money? They're not out there fighting for opinions.
     
  8. Beebs

    Beebs Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    A championship is an accomplishment, not a rating.
     
  9. ufoalf

    ufoalf Boxing Addict Full Member

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    EDIT*

    K. I see your point. True champion is the champion with recognition over other champions from other orgs. We can leave it at that, I agree with you.
     
  10. sugarngold

    sugarngold RIDDUM Full Member

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    This conversation is making my head hurt.
     
  11. Blaze

    Blaze New Member Full Member

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    Do you guys think Iceman would KO Coulture if they faught again?
     
  12. codeman99998

    codeman99998 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    That's a good question. I don't know.

    Chuck Lidell is really really good at making sure his fights aren't wrestling matches.
     
  13. Beebs

    Beebs Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Randy looked much more powerful at HW than 205, the work against the clinch actually looked like it was hurting Gonzaga and Tim, whereas at 205 it was more setup work, so the weight would play a big role. That being said, Chucks done it twice and I wouldn't rule it out a 3rd time.

    I wouldn't bet on this fight unless somebody was way undervalued or something.
     
  14. curmudgeon

    curmudgeon Active Member Full Member

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    Pull Dana W's dick out of you mouth and say something that makes sense.
     
  15. fcu1

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