if fighters can't be taught hand speed 'n punching power...

if one guy is born with the ability to punch at 700lbs of force and another guy is born with the ability to punch at 500lbs of force, you can teach them the exact same technique and have them work the exact same muscles and the first guy could increase power to maybe 775lbs while the second guy would hit about 550 lbs. neither guy would ever touch the guy born with 900lb punching power.
i think hearns increased his power through technique.

 

The ATG Super Joe was born gifted with inhuman foot and hand speed to match his blistering power, but his pappy Enzo taught him some things as well

 

Well let's say you are a beginner.
You punch pretty bad and are pretty slow. Don't you think if you worked on speed and power for 2 months you will hit harder and faster?

It's like any skill the individual always has a celing but sure as hell can be taught how to punch harder / faster.

 

Anyone can be taught handspeed and punching power, but we are all different in grasping concepts and develop differently. Like in elementary school where they divide children into sections with your fast, medium, and slow learners. It's not a matter of can't it's more a matter of won't. Just look at Brandon Rios, not a speedy guy, but when he wants he can sling out that jab just as fast as Floyd just checkout round 12 with the rematch with Alvarado tho Rios misses with it.

Speaking of Rios, he's not highly skilled, yet became a champ. Qualities like grit can be taught and are just as important. Endurance and recuperative qualities are overlooked especially in this era. Too many today focusing on power and strength and are mostly one dimensional, and I'm not just referring to brawlers. Sure boxing in general is hit and not get hit, but hey you gotta mix it up sometimes.

 

Boxing has a lot to do with your naturally born gifts. As do all sports. The thing with boxing however, is that it requires more mental fortitude than any other sport. Nonsense you say? Well here is food for though. Tiger Woods misses a swing, his rating stays somewhat the same and he can come back during next year's tournament. Lebron loses a game he is still there for 10 more seasons. You get clipped once in boxing, and you end up like G Man. Going back to the original topic, those naturally born gifts have more to do with making sure your career doesn't turn 180 and you end up done for good. There is a lot of fine tuning that training does, but to me its just that, fine tuning. And that fine tuning can save you from one swing (which is all it takes).

 

I respect you and your experience JG, but you are wrong. Everyone can improve speed and power, the question would be to what extent...

There's no way a grown ass man throwing arm punches the first day of the gym is not generating more power after he learns how to properly transfer the energy from a punch from the ground up through his hips.

Also applying proper technique will slow you down a bit until you get it right. After repetition the movement will be wired into your body as muscle memory. Its the same principle from a sprinter that improves his running time.

There are only so many things you can try to improve punching power and technique, and like its been said before, nothing is going to make you a power puncher if you aren't one, but it can be improved, no matter how many times you say no :roll:

 

So a tyson who walks into the gym on day 1 of his career punches just as hard and fast as a prime one? It's fairly obvious to see on tape why some fighters punch harder than others. I do agree that there is an upper limit though for each attribute with a given fighter. KO power is all about the seamless transfer of power through various body parts at the target, much like the cracking of a whip. Some fighters have already learnt this coordination all by themselves without formal training.

 

We are assuming that they already know how to properly throw a punch.