If Floyd beats up Marquez and brutally KO's him

:rofl

I would wake up or I would click my heels together stating "There's no place like home."

 

Thats what hes supposed to do after all hes fighting a guy that should be fighting two divisions bellow him.

 

SRL came back from a longer retirement to fight Hagler at Middleweight, a class he'd never fought at against one of the best Middleweights of all-time. It's not asking a lot for Floyd to fight someone in his current weight class that the fans want to see him fight, especially since Floyd claims repeatedly that he'd make easy work of said fighters while giving excuses on why he's not fighting them.

That said, if he does eventually fight the likes of Mosley, Cotto, and Pacquaio then the complaints go away, it's just something that no one has any confidence in with Floyd. The most likely scenario is that he fights Marquez, and if he beats him and Pac beats Cotto, than Floyd and Pac will most likely have a lengthy, contentious negotiation, but will eventually come to terms and fight each other. Floyd probably retires after that win or lose.

 

Don't worry dude... Fraud will never fight either Mosley or Williams :hi:

Unless of course, someone else ****ed them really bad before hand.:deal

 

Roy had that coming for a long time. He pulled that crap so many times I've lost count! I for one was laughing my ass off when Joe started that.

 

:deal

 

Roy getting KTFO by Tarver, then by Johnson, and then being totally humiliated by Calzaghe are just a few ways fans were compensated for the years and years of cherrypicking we endured.

 

Does anyone have that interview on HBO where Roy calls out everyone and their mother, and even the HBO crew acknowledges that they are offering big money for whoever steps up to Roy but noone wants to take the bait.

 

Regarding the Hagler fight. I'd like you to do some research regarding the concessions that Hagler had to offer Ray to make that fight. From gloves, to ring size amongst other things. Then you tell me. Also Ray VERY DIRECTLY says he picked Hagler at what he thought was the RIGHT time. Talk about cherry picking. For the record, while Ray won the fight early based on a strategy faux paus of Hagler, I gave the fight to Hagler..

if he does eventually fight the likes of Mosley, Cotto, and Pacquaio then the complaints go away

BULL**** and I don't say that an offensive matter towards you. I say this to the irrational Mayweather haters who allow his persona to dictate how they feel about him. Since Mayweather has been a pro damn near, every little thing he's done has been NIT PICKED to DEATH.. I can tell you easily what will happen should he win with those three..(which I believe he will fight because they're the lucrative options)

Cotto=damaged goods after Plasterman and Clottey
Mosley=old
Pac=sighing....You think the Marquez TOO SMALL arguments are bad, wait till this one comes to be.

 

When you present a post with logic and facts (as I have here), I'll listen to you. I expect the Mosley fight to be made after Marquez should he beat Marquez (who I think PLENTY of you are underrating).

When that happens I'm going shove this very same post under your throat (figuratively speaking) and watch you eat crow. Deal??

 

I'm aware of the concessions that Hagler made to Ray and of what Ray "saw" which made him think it was the right time to fight Hagler. For all those concessions though, the bottom line is that Ray was moving up in weight to fight one of the best Middleweights of all-time coming off effectively a three-year layoff from the sport. In no way could that be construed as a cherry pick, as few thought that Ray had much of a chance going into that fight for those reasons.

As to ppl hating Floyd regardless if he fights Mosley, Cotto, and Pacquaio, yes there will be some that will hate Floyd anyway and make arguments like you say. However, that audience would be much, much smaller/quieter, imo, if Floyd made those fights and won. But a large part of why Floyd is hated is there is simply no confidence that he will make those fights. Prior to his retirement, Floyd could have made fights with Mosley, Margarito, or Cotto, but instead he was working towards a second fight with DLH. Coming off retirement, he could have fought Pacquaio, Cotto, or Mosley easily, but he picked Marquez to get a high profile, high payday, but seemingly low risk, smaller opponent. The Hatton fight wasn't really desired by the fans compared to fighting Mosley or Cotto. The common thread with Floyd is low risk, high reward. It wasn't always like this, he was much better at facing high quality opposition at 130 and 135, but since he's hit the 140 range that's been what Floyd's about.

 

Agreed. I'll smoke to that :smoke

 

I'll concede your point about prior to his retirement/sabbatical that DLH II was LESS than flattering no doubt. Heck, I like Floyd and thought that was a totally USELESS fight.

I also understand from a business perspective that it was the most lucrative of the time. Whats funny to me though is that now Pac Man is being discussed but had he DARED mentioned Pac Man out of his mouth he would have been crucified.

Stop mentioning Mosley please. They've (Mayweather's camp) made overtures at Mosley for nearly 10 years but "Mosley had bigger fish to fry" with no criticism. But when Floyd does this somehow it's an issue. It's the double standard I'm speaking of.

On page 9 of this thread I asked who are these giants Floyd has avoided and I've yet to hear one. Oh sure people can YELL Williams all they want but when was that fight ever discussed or made?? I'm amazed no one hasn't yelled Cintron for crying out loud.

Also Floyd's critics IMO stem from how they perceive his attitude or his "PERSONA". So anything he does will be judged harshly.

Regarding the Hatton fight. I remember vividly Ricky after LOSING (i said it) to Collazo that he wasn't ready. Somehow I guess he was "feeling his hype" when he beat JCC and "CALLED FLOYD OUT". Ricky posed a lucrative option, what should Floyd have done?? Had he not taken that fight the criticism would have been "he's scared of Ricky Hatton" would it not have been??

He can't win is generally my point. He's asked to do what other fighters if given the same options wouldn't do.

 

One of the best responses to date...Say no more:good

 

dont know, but if he does KO JMM then Pac-PBF gets 5 times bigger then it already is