If Floyd beats up Marquez and brutally KO's him

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  1. Silvermags

    Silvermags Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It's possible but highly improbable...

    one thing is for sure. Divac will be devastated and will again talk about pac vs jmm 1 and 2 :lol::lol::lol:
     
  2. Danny_Rand

    Danny_Rand Slick N Quick Full Member

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    Mayweather was chastised by Brian Kenny on ESPN for fighting Judah instead of taking on Baldomir or HAtton. You can find the vid on youtube. You can also find the fight on Youtube where Manny steward and Merchant are going on about how this was going to be Floyds toughest challenge because of Baldomirs size. Hindsight is 20/20.

    As for Margarito. If Arum could have came up with the 8 mil that he said he could for the fight Floyd probably would have fought him. But he didnt, and he also wanted rights over Floyds fight with Oscar and Hatton.
     
  3. MAG1965

    MAG1965 Loyal Member banned

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    It would show that he knew how to handpick a fighter who he could look good against. I am not sure if he will stop Marquez. Maybe on a cuts..
     
  4. HitBattousai

    HitBattousai Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Mayweather was chastised by Kenny for fighting Judah because Baldomir had beaten Judah. At that point, there was no reason to carry on with that fight, but it had already been in the works and Floyd wanted Zab's trinket belt. A fight with Margarito would have been preferred by far, and Steward/Merchant were just trying to hype up the Baldomir fight since everybody knew it was a mismatch going in. This forum and others were not exactly buzzing high on Baldomir's chances at the time.

    And we do not know if Arum could have come up with the eight million because it didn't happen, nor do we know all the terms of that contract. We do know that Floyd chose to fight Baldomir for roughly the same money and a lot less risk.
     
  5. Maelstrom

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    :yep:yep

    If Arum wanted Tony to fight Floyd HE WOULD HAVE MATCHED HIM BETTER.:deal

    Manuel Gomez and Sebastian Lujuan is poor preparation for a guy like Mayweather.
     
  6. Maelstrom

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    :patsch

    You dumb-ass mofo.

    There is NOTHING "stocky" about Floyd Jr..

    You actually think Mayweather has big bone structure:nut:lol::nut

    You have a RAT in youR ****in brain.


    Manny cherrypicked Oscar:yep..you don't seem to have a problem with that.

    David Diaz was cherrypicked as well...the sorriest mofo at 135.:yep

    Cotto is another cherrypicked opponent..we all know Shane is more deserving than Cotto..plus he'll better prepare Manny for Floyd.
     
  7. HitBattousai

    HitBattousai Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Amusing. By the same logic, guess Hatton obviously didn't want any of Floyd since he matched up with Urango and a shot Castillo beforehand.
     
  8. Maelstrom

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    It didn't help Ricky now did it?

    At least Castillo was a common opponent.

    Who did Tony fight that was on Mayweather's resume.?

    Tony and Co turned down Mitchell:yep...a ranked WW..to fight Manuel Gomez..as unranked and shot to hell as they come.:lol:
     
  9. sweetray

    sweetray Well-Known Member Full Member

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    He should of have fought Mosley long time ago before he "retired"
     
  10. Maelstrom

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    Shane didn't want any...he had a "toothache".
     
  11. Scar

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    Mosley was called out twice by Mayweather and turned it down. Mosley was called out by Mayweather when he was P4P#1 and Mayweather was at 135 and turned him down. Is it because Mosley is scared to death?, hell no, if these guys had any fear they wouldn't have been in this sport nor would they have successful records like they do. He was turned down because Mayweather was an unknown back then like Margarito was an unknown when he called out Mayweather. Mayweather was also turned down by the likes of Hamed and others because of that, it's not because they're scared either.

    This is a sport and a business, these guys tend to focus on the business side more as they progress since they get PAID doing this as a full-time job, this isn't a part time job or a hobby they do for charity.

    All fighters did that. A good recent example is Valero calling out Pac, is Pac scared of Valero?, **** no. Pacquiao has far bigger/better options to shoot for than the unknown Valero who is yet to get a decent win on his record pretty much like Margarito back in 2006.

    One thing I don't understand is how Margarito is supported and cheered for when he was calling out Mayweather and Cotto when they were RUMORED to have plans to move to welterweight(yes, even before making it there) yet DLH is **** on for fighting a smaller opponent in Pac or Mayweather for fighting Marquez. Wasn't Margarito calling out smaller guys?, aren't half of Margarito's opponents all guys half his size?, isn't Mayweather the one to make it to 5 different divisions successfully?, didn't Margarito fail in an attempt at a championship in his first new weight attempt?(I know he was lower than Welter early in his career but didn't win any championship there to make a serious mark). Isn't Mosley a bigger opponent calling out Pacquiao?, if Mayweather did it then he wants to fight dwarfs only but Mosley is appreciated for it.
     
  12. pejevan

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    I do not have problem with DLH-Pac fight because I alreadyknew that he Hoya was way past it even during the PBF fight. Couple that with the fact that he lost weight improperly by cutting muscle mass. Besides, it was not manny who handpicked Hoya but Hoya who did the picking expecting it to be a easy cruise.

    Diaz could actually be a tune-up fight going to 135. When you are swimming in an uncharted waters, do you immediately swim in the deepest part???? Either you are a stupid person or have a death wish.

    Cotto may be a handpicked opponent based on your stupid assumption but Cotto has a very legitimate chance to win this fight. Cotto is a fighter who I believe should be fighting at superwelter instead of at welter. Only a hugger would see this as an easy fight for either fighter. mMosley on the other hand is a GBP fighter and if you do the economics, a fight with Mosley would end up with more money for the coffer of Dela Hoya since Pac would still have to pay GBP promotional rights. Cotto is a Top Rank fighter and therefore, Arum would make a killing with this one. Arum may be an 80 year old person but he is not stupid.

    Mayweather can not make the 140 anymore today. You still probably have a foggy memory of Mayweather because of his inactivity. when you grow up, you become bigger in bone structure. Not in length but in bone density. Now if you do not have a medivcal knowledge, this may be strange to you. But once the bone growth plate closes, there is no way that a bone could grow longer, however, the bone becomes bigger sideways.

    If you still think mayweather can fight at 135-140, then why did the fight happen at 143 (?). JMM is barely a 135 fighter and to ask a 135 fighter to jump at welterweight is asking too much.

    Mayweather may not be as stocky as Cotto or probably Duran, but his body built is nowhere as near as JMM. Mayweather's body built is in a twilight zone, too big for a 135-140, yet too small for 145-154. He could probably be at 140-147 comfortably, but who is there at this division? Bradley and company are not exactly in the name recall league except for Cotto. The fighters south of that weight are just too big for him.

    People who can't argue always resort to name-calling. Those are what we call imbeciles, morons or idiots and you can choose which among those you want to call yourself because it does not matter.
     
  13. dan-b

    dan-b Boxing Junkie banned

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    The difference is, Scar, Williams is prepared to go to their divisions to fight those guys. Floyd isn't doing that which seems strange when so many of his fans insist he's not a welterweight.
     
  14. elchivito

    elchivito master betty Full Member

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    :lol: why would cotto be making floyd any offers when he was busy fighting REAL welters like sugar shane and clottey? throw in margarito for that matter, at least he still made that challenge without having knowledge what was gonna unfold. your telling me you can't compare that resume at welter to baldomir, gatti, and judah, which was what floyd did at 147? :nut ***** u made me laugh so hard i almost pissed out a mother****ing kidney stone. i've followed floyd's career too and u had alot of good points, especially how he got under alot of people's skin after the gatti fight, but u can't block the sun with a finger. his accomplishments imo are very good accomplishments, the oscar, hatton, corrales, gatti, judah, and castillo fights being his most high profile fights and wins against solid opposition like genaro hernandez and sharmba mitchell impressive. it's when he opens his mouth on being the GOAT that stirs the chaos. taking on baldomir for the belts and not defending against cotto, margarito, williams, mosley, or berto left alot of fans scrathing their heads and made u think, "What type of champion is floyd mayweather?" he let go of a beautiful thing from happening and instead of establishing as the next Sugar Ray Leonard whom floyd thinks he better, he fights oscar and retires. granted, he could of fought oscar and keep fighting at welter. i well damn knew he was gonna come back, whether u like it or not, my friend, u can defend him all u want, but he's also cherry picking at it's finest
     
  15. DINAMITA

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    If Floyd beats him up and brutally KO's him, then full credit to Floyd. Only a bitter and twisted man would deny him that. Yes, Floyd does have undeniable size advantages in this fight, but it's not Valuev v Calderon here. Countless great fights in history have involved a size disparity, it's nothing new or evil. This is a real fight, a live challenge, and if Floyd wins emphatically he deserves the credit for putting a truly elite boxer to the sword. Don't get me wrong, in an ideal world I would rather Floyd fought someone from his own division like Mosley, but it's not like Marquez is an easy option, he is one of the three best active boxers in the world along with the Pacman and B-Hop. If Floyd wanted the easy option, he would have taken it - in all fairness, he has done it enough times in the past since he tangled with Castillo. Floyd has fought mediocre opposition above 135, and has avoided Tszyu, Williams, Mosley, Margarito and Cotto. If he was still in that mindset, his comeback fight would be against someone like Ricardo Torres or Luis Collazo. But the fact he is coming back against the world p4p#2 says to me that Floyd once again means business (thank ****, because we really don't need one of boxing's only superstars avoiding the best opponents). Marquez vs Mayweather is a great fight, and the winner deserves all the credit in the world. :bbb