If Floyd beats up Marquez and brutally KO's him

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Danny_Rand, Aug 13, 2009.


  1. tolindoy

    tolindoy UBESTRIDTE MESTER Full Member

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    NOR has floyd beaten any of them......That should have been BK's answer...:lol::good
     
  2. dan-b

    dan-b Boxing Junkie banned

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    Floyd's bad for boxing these days. His fans can't seem to see how people like him and Calzaghe do nothing but damage to the sport. A lot of blame lies with TV who allow this bull**** to keep happening. One of Scurlaruntings' biggest criticisms is how Lennox Lewis, apparently, didn't allow fighters to "eat", Floyd does exactly the same thing but worse.

    If he's going to continue like this he should be marginalised out of the sport and allow more money in the pot for people who want to fight. Fights like Berto v Mosley, Hopkins v Adamek and others could be made now if there wasn't so much being invested in this prima donna who holds the sport in contempt.
     
  3. Scar

    Scar VIP Member Full Member

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    That post doesn't respond to ANYTHING I posted in my previous post.

    About his approach towards possible opponents or guys that call him out, that's what some fighters do. Ali trash talked FAR more than Mayweather EVER will and he did so before he fought guys and after it. Ali basically talked of his opponents like they're F class fighters compared to him, does that mean it's true?, hell no. We all know all have their own ways of promoting future/possible/current fights. A good proof that his approach is a successful one is how entertaining the 24/7s involving him were compared to recent ones.

    He may get under the skin of most fans, that's his goal and he's doing a good job with you it seems. At least it keeps you excited before his fights and badly want to know what happened when it's over if you ordered or didn't. That, despite clearly annoying you, should be appreciated in my opinion. At least it keeps things spiced up and interesting.
     
  4. dan-b

    dan-b Boxing Junkie banned

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    There was nothing specific to respond to Scar. Ali may have trash talked his opponents but he always had the intention of fighting him. Floyd trash talks people and tries justify why he won't fight them! Surely you can see that fundamental difference.
     
  5. Scar

    Scar VIP Member Full Member

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    Mayweather always fought everyone available at the right time, his approach is NOTHING compared to Calzaghe. Mayweather was p4p#1 for two years straight, fighter of the year 1998 and 2007, lineal champion in three divisions, world champion in five divisions and a possible candidate for greatest fighter of this generation(now competing with Pac). A guy like that is NOT bad for boxing especially when he was involved in the richest fight in boxing history. Compare his PPV numbers with Cazlaghe's, the can attract a lot of people, that is NEVER bad for boxing.

    Don't forget that a possible fight with Pacquiao is already being considered the BIGGEST fight in boxing today and a possible fight to break PPV records as well. When was Calzaghe ever considered to be in a fight that could be considered the biggest in boxing today?
     
  6. Danny_Rand

    Danny_Rand Slick N Quick Full Member

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    You ignore the fact that Ali damaged his opponents reputation so much that guys like Frazier cant stand him to this day. You also ignore the fact that Floyd did try to make fights with guys like Mosley.

    You are a typical Floyd hater hypocrite. Bad for the sport. :rofl This sport was going to hell before Floyd fought Oscar and Hatton and got it some mainstream pub.
     
  7. Scar

    Scar VIP Member Full Member

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    Yes I can see the difference and hope you can see it too. It's not just call someone out and it's signed, there's serious negotiations to take place and we all know how great Mayweather's relationship is with Arum.

    If Arum was making things easy you wouldn't see Pacquiao's team throw out rumors about how it's very possible for them to ditch his ass to make the Mayweather fight possible.

    There's a lot of respond to by the way, you brought up the Mosley case trying to make it look like Mayweather avoided planet earth and Mosley.
     
  8. dan-b

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    He's still taken a cynial approach to boxing since he left 135. He has no legacy a 147 and shamelessly avoided the challenges in a deep division. Floyd's always done what suits him best and then cries about not being loved. The man's a walking contradiction. You say he plays the villain but he clearly doesn't seem completely comfortable in that position.

    What's worse is that he's claimed to be the GOAT. My question to you all is why won't he face Pavlik. If he's that good and truly believes it, why not make that fight?
     
  9. dan-b

    dan-b Boxing Junkie banned

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    Yes but he ****ing fought Frazier! What is the matter with you? Mayweather talks **** about Cotto, Margo and Shane and won't fight them!

    So it's all big bad Arum's fault is it? If Floyd wasn't so fussy these fights could be made ****ing easily. He's too caught up in being a celebrity instead of just getting on with the boxing.

    I don't even care about Pacqiaou v Mayweather anymore. With or without Arum Floyd will make things so difficult it won't happen anyway. Pac doesn't need Floyd and should retire after the Cotto fight. The true current p4p number one doesn't need the disrespect Floyd is guarunteed to show him at every turn.
     
  10. Scar

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    Pavlik? :lol:

    Man, do you know what you're typing about?, seriously. This is looking to be stupid and irrational at this point. Mayweather didn't even belong at 154 let alone 160 and he still fought DLH there with all advantages in DLH's favor(Ring, gloves, money, location, weight).

    If he claims to be the GOAT then that's what he believes, I don't agree with him but don't blame him for saying that. Many other fighters said the same before him. RJJ did, Lennox Lewis and many others. How is Mayweather different from those guys?, like they said it he can too, it doesn't make it real.

    You just drop one-liners without any fact to back them. He was the lineal champion at 147 and the rest of guys who collected titles did nothing but pick up vacant paper titles Baldomir vacated because he didn't want to pay the fees. His reign at 147 is NOT nothing, only a newbie in the sport would say it. Cotto wasn't even a tested Welter when Mayweather made it there and beat Baldomir. You forgot the "Not ready yet" comments from team Cotto and how they all of a sudden became ready when Mayweather announced his retirement?

    Above all, do you even know ANYTHING about the negotiation process in the sport?. If not then spare me, you're already not responding to my posts properly and keep jumping from one thing to another.

    Pavlik?! :lol::rofl, why Pavlik?, why not Wladimir Klitschko?
     
  11. Danny_Rand

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    So what if he fought him? So you can call a guy an uncle tom question his racial allegiance, call him a gorilla but he fought him so its ok? :rofl:rofl

    Margo, Cotto and Shane could have all fought Floyd at one point. Cotto at 140. Margo after the Judah fight. Shane atleast twice during his career. They are owned by their companies so these fights never happened. If they were their own men like Floyd they would have made these fights when Floyd asked them to.

    Pac will never be considered the best until he fights Floyd. You must be the only person on earth that doesnt wanna see this fight. Wow. Haters.
     
  12. dan-b

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    I hope you're deliberately being glib otherwise you're an idiot. You've proven my point by laughing off the Pavlik fight. However, Floyd seems to think he's better than SRL and SRR so should he not be held to the same standard?

    You can throw in a few more emoticons next time Scar. It really adds to your argument.
     
  13. Scar

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    Nonsense, what's the matter with YOU?. You seem to be completely clueless about what has been going on.

    It's not Mayweather who called these guys out, they were the ones to trash talk about him. Margarito, like Vivian Harris, did nothing but make a career talking smack about Mayweather back when his biggest career win was Manuel Gomez. Arum promoted these guys through Mayweather, a guy he was promoting too, because he left his ass to make a fight with DLH possible.

    Again, you just post a load of garbage coming out of your pocket with ZERO proof to back it up. Pacquiao won't be disrespected, Pacquiao is not a random clueless fan to believe he will be disrespected. Mayweather will do a great job promoting the fight and the more he talks the more people tune in out of frustration and hope of seeing him knocked the **** out on fight night. You know what that translates to?, more shillings for Pacquiao after the fight due to PPV numbers. If anything that's the dream fight for Pacquiao and his bank account which is why he's showing a lot of interest in making it possible after Cotto. He already said he WON'T retire till he fights Mayweather so the way Pacquiao sees Mayweather is nothing like how you see him, with all do respect he's not that clueless.
     
  14. dan-b

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    I want to see the fight but only if Floyd's not going to be a total ***** about the negotiations which we know he will be. He'll want 60/40, huge gloves and a huge ring. **** knows what he'll do about the weight. He'll probably decide he is a true welter after all when he fights Pac. That's the kind of bull**** boxing can do without.
     
  15. san rafael

    san rafael 0.00% lemming Full Member

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    :lol:

    I have to agree.