if floyd beats...

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Relentless, Dec 9, 2007.


  1. Relentless

    Relentless VIP Member banned

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    cotto
    margarito
    williams
    mosley
    cintron
    spinks
    forrest

    where would he rank all time?
     
  2. Chunk

    Chunk tallaght boy Full Member

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  3. bumdujour

    bumdujour Well-Known Member Full Member

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    you know the answer: to most of the dumbassed (and obviously inbred:yep ) pbf haters, he would still have "never beaten anyone of note":patsch
     
  4. codeman99998

    codeman99998 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I'd have him at #2 probably if he did that, maybe #1 (BLASPHEMY!).

    That's a whole hell of a lot of very very stiff competition. Floyd won't.
     
  5. Stimulant

    Stimulant Active Member Full Member

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    In the top 100 P4P all time..
     
  6. jlrivera81

    jlrivera81 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    #1 without a doubt. he will have wiped out a talent rich division and moved up to fight fighters much bigger than himself.
     
  7. yesihavearm

    yesihavearm Active Member Full Member

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    If all those wins were between 147 and 154 I'd put him in the top 10-20 fighters ever.

    Dont get carried away, there's still no top 50 atg's on his resume even if he beat all them guys.

    But it would still be enough to rank him up there.

    You cant put him top10 though, simply because there's at least 10 people who were better than him.
     
  8. codeman99998

    codeman99998 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    We do have to keep in mind though that 147 and 154 are not exactly Mayweather's prime weight classes. Lacking top 50 ATGs to fight in your prime division (Floyd could almost definitely STILL make 140) moving up other divisions and just fighting the greats of your era and beating them has to count for a whole hell of a lot.
     
  9. scott is cool

    scott is cool Well-Known Member Full Member

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    #1. But if he though all them he's be 40, by then. If he beats Cotto, Mosley and Magarito then he may be considerd the greatest.
     
  10. Doc BNB

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    It most likely would still degenerate to the chronic nostalgia bias we all suffer.

    At this point it's not whom he beats...it's whom he can't ever face due to era difference.

    Plus, for obvious reasons, people can still go the hindsight route and say he never fought Freitas or Casamayor at the height of their threats at 130, or Tszyu when he was at 140 as undisputed champion, or Wright when he was at 154 while Mayweather tried bragging again...hell, I'm sure some here rememebr the ribbing about him not fighting Spinks at 154 (why is it that those kinds of things are only brought up as negatives, when we KNOW that would've been an ugly-as-sin fight?)

    I don't necessarily agree that's how things should be discussed, or that there should ever be a single all-time list (how is it fair to compare what SRL did in multiple divisions to what hagler did in one???) but as long as they're done that way, I'll say he's one of the greats, and leave it at that, because that's all I think about it now.

    The litmus test is 20-30 years from now, when some will say "sure this guy is the best now, but he's no Floyd Mayweather..."
     
  11. Ashy Knucks

    Ashy Knucks Prize Fighter Full Member

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    If he beat Cotto and Williams alone i'de have him knocking on the top 5's door if not higher..
     
  12. saul_ir34

    saul_ir34 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Its very hard to compare present fighters to guys in the past. Those guys sometimes fought once a week. Nowadays a fighter who is "very" active fights 3-4 times a year. But as of present times(within the last 20 years i would say he would be top 5). Even if he didnt beat all those guys i would give him alot of credit just for fighting them and i think that would make his popularity grow since lately it seems like he hand picks his opponents.
     
  13. Relentless

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    or how would he be rated say he beat all those fighters and then goes onto lose against someone like collazo or quintana?
     
  14. Ashy Knucks

    Ashy Knucks Prize Fighter Full Member

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    Thats very true.. Fighters are better remembered for their greatness as time goes on..
     
  15. The Hitman

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    If he beat all those guys he would be the greatest fighter of all time for my money. If you leave Cotto, Williams and maybe Mosley on there i also feel you could ditch any two others and he would still be the GOAT.