If Floyd Ever Fights Manny...

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by southpaw1974, Jul 25, 2014.


  1. southpaw1974

    southpaw1974 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I didn't say that's why the fight didn't happen. The fight didn't happen because Floyd Jr. and Sr. never wanted the damn fight. The testing was a clever smoke screen and ploy that they correctly predicted would work. Personally, I wished he had agreed to the testing up till the day of the fight in order to back Floyd into a corner and force him to resort to plan B which would have been to price himself out of the fight which he later did. I don't care if they agreed to 50/50, he has shown that he is willing and able to renege on ****.

    The fact that Manny is taking the test now proves that he was willing to take the test he just didn't want to be contractually obligated to have to take it up till the day of the fight. Correct me if I'm wrong, but he has never been asked to give blood the week of the fight. Back then it was something unprecedented and Floyd was asking him to agree to give blood up till the day of the fight potentially and that didn't sit well with him because he felt it would weaken him. Has a fighter ever been asked to give blood the week of the fight since this random blood testing has begun? I'd like to know why none of these boxers (Floyd included) are undergoing VADA testing. That is the most reputable one and the one that has nailed tons of guys.
     
  2. HolyCityBully

    HolyCityBully Well-Known Member Full Member

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    There is so much to correct in your post that I dont even know where to start.

    1st, VADA is not the most reputable testing agency. They are just the newest one.

    2nd, a fighter asking for more stringent drug testing is NOT unprecedented. Brush up on your boxing history.

    3rd, Floyd couldnt dictate to USADA when they blood test him and his opponent. Thats where the RANDOM part comes in. So it was never even sure that Pac would have to give blood a week or less before the fight.

    4th, your one week cutoff is made-up because even during the mediation, Pac's team never offered to come down to one week.

    In other words, you explanations are complete BS.

    Its years later and boxing fans still were never given a straight answer as to why Pac refused OSDT. You are making up phobias for Pac, another poster said it was about leverage, another says its about Arum...

    You can speculate about what Floyd have done if Pac had accepted but he was too scared of tests to accept.
     
  3. markq

    markq Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    300M at Rios fight

    http://www.forbes.com/sites/kurtbad...nings-will-reach-300-million-with-rios-fight/ MORON! Stop posting. Typical *******.
     
  4. HoldMyBeer

    HoldMyBeer Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    who cares what reasons either of them had/have
    the winner would have been king of their era AND mega-rich

    but because they could both get filthy rich without one of them 'losing face' in a super-bout, they took the easy road, and the federations were toothless to change that
     
  5. markq

    markq Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    HBO says GGG is the ONLY one who fights who they propose. HBO knows Manny is a ducker. Who else has Manny ducked beyond Floyd?
     
  6. Chango

    Chango Well-Known Member Full Member

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    It sounds like you already making excuses for Manny
     
  7. southpaw1974

    southpaw1974 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    This is off the topic of the thread, but that's how things usually go on this fu**ing forum. You failed to catch this part shithead:

    The huge payday will push PacquiaoÂ’s career earnings to $300 million, including endorsements.

    I was going by what he has earned in the ring. I am sure he has made much more if you factor in endorsements here and in Asia.

    Even if he has made 300M, in order for him to owe the government 60+ million he would have had to not pay ANY taxes on half of that money. 150M would have had to have gone untaxed which is possible but highly unlikely. When someone is that famous and is making that much money, the IRS monitors them pretty closely.
     
  8. southpaw1974

    southpaw1974 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Here's a great question for you guys ---if Pacquiao made 35M to fight guys like Cotto and Margarito, why would he only accept 5M more and zero backside to face Mayweather in the biggest PPV money fight of all time? Answer that question please! We know why Floyd would duck Manny because his marketability is hugely predicated on remaining undefeated because he is viewed as a boring fighter to the casual boxing fans (I love watching him fight, but I am a boxing purist) who are crucial for PPV revenue. Pacquiao is extremely exciting and has already lost multiple times, so a loss for him (especially against a fighter the caliber of Floyd) is not NEARLY as devestating to his pocketbook as it would be to Floyd. That was proven after he was KTFO by Marquez after losing a decision to Bradley and then went on to earn 30M against Rios and 20M against Bradley in the rematch.
     
  9. moparfan

    moparfan ESB's glass jawed fraud Full Member

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    Pacquiao made 35 million combined for 2 fights.


    And gotta link to your Bob Arum interview...???
     
  10. Staminakills

    Staminakills Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    bro,
    you're making up complete BS earnings for pac. he has never made close to 35M for probably 2 fights combined. he get gaurantees of 6M then gets a little back end of ppv sales which has been nonexistent for years and years.

    even when he broke a M buys i bet arum put in fine print that pacs backend was anything above 1M.
     
  11. moparfan

    moparfan ESB's glass jawed fraud Full Member

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  12. Scar

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    Don't worry, this fight won't happen.
     
  13. moparfan

    moparfan ESB's glass jawed fraud Full Member

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    Claiming Floyd is better that Robinson...??? :patsch:patsch:patsch

    http://www.boxingforum24.com/showthread.php?t=62541
     
  14. southpaw1974

    southpaw1974 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Read my post dude. I didn't say he was better. I was saying that people act as if Robinson was a flawless fighter devoid of blemishes when he was dropped 10 times and had many close to questionable decisions while in his prime and it's not absurd to suggest that a modern great fighter with the skills of Floyd could potentially be viewed as good or better (if he had had the balls to face certain guys). Unfortunately, Floyd avoided certain guys and gave critics fodder that they wouldn't have had if he had elected to face and had defeated those opponents.
     
  15. southpaw1974

    southpaw1974 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I'm not making anything up man. Below is the source. It looks like there are various different reports of what he has made so who the hell knows who or what to believe. My point is, he has made a shitload of money to face guys who did not have the ability to generate as much money as a fight with Floyd would, so why would he duck him? You can't say it's because of a fear of losing which would hurt his pocketbook because he has lost multiple times and it has not hurt his purses.

    http://www.celebritynetworth.com/richest-athletes/richest-boxers/manny-pacquiao-net-worth/