If floyd finishes off with ortiz, khan and pac - will he have fulfilled his promise?

Langford did not beat anyone resembling Vitali. Heavyweight back then isn't heavyweight now.

Precisely what was the highest weight he fought and won a title at? I want the pounds so we can compare. Also we have SRR we can look at. But besides these two, are you saying there are others who would be higher than Floyd or Pacquiao if they go on the path they are set on?

 

Explain why Ali, Loius, Pep, Gans, Charles and Ross would rank higher because I disagree with you on these picks.

I think Holyfield in terms of resume ranks higher than Ali. I think Ali only ranks high because of charisma and what he did for boxing and not his actual resume. What I'm saying is I think Holyfield is the greatest living heavyweight, and I think it's based on resume and the fact that Holyfield is still beating guys and still at the elite level somehow.

Duran, Robinson, Fitz, Langford, Armstrong, I can agree on these that it's going to be really difficult for anyone to ever surpass them.

 

Yeah, this is exactly how I would expect it to play-out, extensive HATE til he beats the next guy and so on & so on...

Think about what just happened here in these three post. If Floyd beats Ortiz, Khan and Pac Right. All 3 are Belt Holders and Pac is supposed to be, (according to all the experts, especially the experts in Boxing Forums LOL) the "chosen-one" to destroy FMJ right? But this is still not enough in their opinion. Then he has to beat Martinez and even then (according to one poster) if Martinez is showing his age, Floyd gets no credit. So I would Imagine someone will eventually bring up the the winner of the Super 6 or whom-ever is SMW Champ by the time FMJ beats the previously mentioned fighters and by then if Alvarez and Chavez jr. are still undefeated then of course FMJ will be accused of ducking them and being scared. FMJ is a fighter that only fights once a year, so for him to defeat the fighters "they want him to beat" he would be well into is 40's...yet people would say that he still needs to beat this guy and that guy to prove that he is the best :-(.

I know that I a new poster to this whole forum stuff, but what I have come to learn about debating the career of Floyd Mayweather whether in a forum or anywhere else, It's just Pointless! Because few people (if any) rarely debates Floyd objectively, it's all based on Pure Hate!

 

I wan't him to face Martinez also.

 

thats because floyd gives you a whole lot to hate. dont complain that he does it to sell fights and then call it unfair when he gets what he is after. there is no doubt that floyd has been taking the path of least resistance, for whatever reason you want to believe. if he ends his career like the ts is suggesting, i for one, will give him a pass on the percieved ducking of challenges in the past.

 

Once you said this..I stopped reading:-(.

 

Pac is enough (due to how high he is currently ranked). Anything else is icing on the cake, IMO.

 

I don't really blame Floyd for not fighting Popo and Tszyu. Sometimes fights just don't happen because of timing, politics, etc...But at the same time, I'm not going to credit him either.

Beating a fellow great like Manny would do a lot for legacy, it would put him as #1 in this era (whatever an era really means), and Ortiz and Khan would help as well. But I think he wasted time doing nothing.

Seriously, do people look at Ortiz & Khan and think they are better than guys like 2008 versions of Cotto, the Plastered *******, and Williams? Floyd worked hard to get into a position where he had the negotiating leverage to command big fights, but has only one quality win since the end of 2007. That hurts his legacy, no matter if he beats Khan and Ortiz.

 

I'm not big on the WW division right now. It was excellent 3-4 years ago, but Ortiz is merely a good but flawed guy, as well as Khan, who is still @ 140 right now. People are big on 140 but I think it's a good division more so because of parity rather than the talent level.

The division was stronger in 2007-08, and Floyd wasted his time from 2008-on doing little. I think that hurt his legacy, because he was in a position where could demand big fights and get it, but didn't fight in 2008, had one fight against a LW in 2009, and had a good win in 2010 but has done nothing since.

Floyd is my favorite active fighter to watch, I think he is absolutely beautiful to watch in the ring, but I feel he wasted some of his legacy due to whatever reason. Business tactics, fear of losing, lack of desire, whatever.

Floyd fighting Manny would do a lot for the legacy of the winner.