If Floyd fought Canelo...Would he lose respect if..

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  1. Slickstar

    Slickstar Crisp This Full Member

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    Same day weigh ins follow tradition and have legitimacy to them

    Catchweights and rehydration clauses especially rehydration clauses are cheap

    Who knows what Floyd will do. He does what he wants and willingly embraces flack
     
  2. kwilson71

    kwilson71 #MAYDAY Full Member

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    :think havnt thought of that one
     
  3. bladerunner

    bladerunner El Intocable Full Member

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    yes he would he should fight Canelo just like he fought Cotto and DLH without any restrictions if he brings something up it just shows that when face with someone he isnt sure he can beat he comes up with something to try and kill the fight like he did with Pac, if he fights Canelo with no restrictions or bull**** demands than he should get massive credit for stepping up and fight a guy that can possibly beat him.
     
  4. Bogotazo

    Bogotazo Amateur Full Member

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    I doubt Floyd cares all that much, but his fans seem to care an awful lot about catch-weights and reydration clauses.
     
  5. Concrete

    Concrete Boxing Addict Full Member

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    There is a huge difference between the rumors of DLH not allowed to re hydrate past 147 on fight night vs Canelo being able to re hydrate 11pds. I don't think a 10 pd re hydration clause is unreasonable. Anything under that would be nonsense though.

    Criticism is decided based on what reasonable or not.
     
  6. Gander Tasco

    Gander Tasco Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    :deal


    A rehydration clause is ridiculous.. If anything do a catchweight if he's that worried about it.
     
  7. Concrete

    Concrete Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Nah a catchweight is worse then rehydration clause. Of course that depends on what the catchweight is compared to the rehydration clause.
     
  8. DBLOCK

    DBLOCK Well-Known Member Full Member

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    probaly but we're at the point now where no one believes no fighter at 147 and below can beat floyd.so,the people who wanna see him lose wants him to go up.rjj went through a similar thing and should've retired after the ruiz fight.
     
  9. Bogotazo

    Bogotazo Amateur Full Member

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    Rumors are just that, I highly doubt DLH was contractually bound to stay at 147.

    But Pacquiao was outweighed by Margarito by 17lbs despite a catchweight at 151lbs, and Floyd fans trash him for it. This scenario is similar.
     
  10. Concrete

    Concrete Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ppl were criticizing the fact that Hoya weighed 147 on fight night and then the rumors spread that that was because of a rehydration clause. If Hoya weighed 154 on fight night nobody would have really cared even if there was a rehydration clause.

    The criticism vs Margarito was the fact that he wasn't a ranked JMW was out of boxing for a yr and looked like trash in his comeback fight. All in order to create a belt to give Pac his 8th world title. If there was no belt and 8th world title accomplishment attached to it most wouldn't really complain about the fight.

    You guys leave out major details in order to talk ****.
     
  11. Bogotazo

    Bogotazo Amateur Full Member

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    Who is "you guys?" How am I talking ****?

    Those other criticisms surrounding the Margarito fight are valid. I'm talking specifically about the catch-weight, which alone was cause for *****s to categorically criticize Pacquiao. Cotto didn't give a fight night weight I believe but I'm sure he outweighed Manny despite the catch-weight. It's a main point of critique and it would be ironic for Floyd himself to issue a rehydration clause, that was my point.

    A rehydration clause for DLH is highly unlikely, Oscar screwed up his own conditioning plan.
     
  12. oibighead

    oibighead G.O.A.T. Full Member

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    No, you are incorrect. He took **** for fighting for the 154 belt at 151.
     
  13. Bogotazo

    Bogotazo Amateur Full Member

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    That he deserved **** for. But I just saw someone the other day claim that Margarito was weakened by the catch-weight, looked drained, and that it was to Pacquiao's benefit, despite the fact that he was outweighed by 17lbs. Cotto also outweighed him. If Floyd includes a stipulation like that, it would be ironic. But I wouldn't have a problem with it at all.
     
  14. oibighead

    oibighead G.O.A.T. Full Member

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    Yeh thats silly. He was at 147 most of his career.

    He fought at the same catchweight against Cotto afterwards?

    I thought he looked alright against Cotto the second time. IMO Cotto was lucky Manny had damaged his eye so badly.
     
  15. Concrete

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    It would depend on what the rehydration clause was in order to compare with what Pac was getting critiqued for. I don't see Pac getting critiqued if the opponent wasn't coming down in weight, or using a catch weight, and had 10pd rehydration clause.

    Oscar made weight so what was there to screw up? What would make sense is if he screwed up trying to maintain a specific rehydration weight that he agreed to.