If Floyd gets no credit for beating JMM then Cotto shouldn't either if he beats Pac

You make a very good arguement...However, Logic & Common Sense doesn't seem to work very well in ESB.

ESB Posters are not interested in ANY arguements that shows appreciation for the Skill, Talent & Resume of Floyd Mayweather.

And don't even think about criticizing Juanma or Miguel Cotto...THAT'S BLASPHEMY!!!!

ESB Posters also believe Manny Pacquio Walks on Water and that Joe Calzaghe is the greatest human to ever wear a pair of Boxing Gloves.

But Good Luck Though.

 

:rofl:rofl

 

Cotto beating PAC is the same as Mayweather beating Hatton, the credit should be the same here.
Mayweather beating JMM would be at the level of Cotto possibly beating Casamayor.

 

:deal

 

come on with this shyt...if you dont give Cotto credit for beating pac your a clown period....end of discussion

 

Its arguable whether PAC is better than Hatton at least at WW.
Hatton proved he can beat B level WW and become champion over
there while struggling at that weight. PAC did not prove even that yet.

Also Hatton from Floyd fight could be better version than Hatton from PAC fight.
So right now at JWW PAC > Hatton but the version of Hatton at WW fighting
Floyd might be even better than current PAC at WW (which we don't know).

So as you see its all arguable, and the credit for beating PAC (by Cotto)
and Hatton (by Floyd) at WW should be officially the same as during the
fight they were both rightfull JWW champions.

 

I will give you two reasons why there not comparable:

1. Manny is naturally a bigger and stronger man than Marquez. He may have started at a lighter weight, but he has fully matured into a larger
more athletic frame. Pac has also proven to make the higher weights with
no problem.

2. Marquez is older and IMO he has already matured into a max of 135.
So to make 144 was a huge task for him. He was visibly slowed down, and
not able to compete with the much bigger and faster Mayweather.

 

How do you respond to the responses in this thread, then? Some strong counter arguments have been made.

 

JMM's only fight at 147 is vs PBF though. That's not a fair measure.

That doesn't necessarily mean that he can't fight at that weight and do damage. We need to see JMM fight someone else at 147 in order to see what his capabilities are.

Ask yourselves this question. What if Pacman's first fight at welter was vs PBF and not DLH. Pacman fought David Diaz at 135 then went up to fight DLH at 145. JMM fought Juan Diaz at 135 then went up to fight PBF at 144.

JMM never fought at welterweight - DLH didn't fight at welterweight since 2001.

Pacman never fought at welterweight - PBF was on a 2 yr retirement.

 

In the Cotto vs Pacman fight the better fighter will win. One comes with elite athletic ability, speed, and power. The other comes with good boxing skill, elite power, and toughness.

They both bring 2 very different styles to the table. It comes down to who is able to control the tempo.

Then there is even more intrigue because Cotto is able to be hit and hit alot vs a guy like Pacman who can really light a guy up. But Pacman's chin is very very suspect vs a guy with a lot of power. Plus there is the question about the body punches. Is Pacman going to be able to handle them. Is Cotto going to be able to land them.

 

Awful post. Not to mention Floyd cheating Marquez at the weigh-in and paying him off. Lets see if Cotto is a man of his word- i bet he is and he comes in at 145. Did Mayweather ever intend to even reach the catchweight? Was he just deceiving the public....If they said this fight was at 147 nealry all boxing people would think its a complete and utter mismatch-basically how it turned out.

 

you dont know boxing