If FLOYD Goes On "Vacation" Immediately After ORTIZ...

Haha got these fukin *******s out...ownin this *****.

Dummiez got played out there own thread.

Easy to beat these guys when it comes to a DEBATE WITH THESE NON EDUCATED DUMMIEZ.

BTW, IF U FOCUSING ON WAT THE SPELLING SHOWS U ALREADY LOST, THANKS.

NO WHERE DOES IT SAY WE HAVE TO GO BY PROPER FUKIN GRAMMAR...

 

I just love how dummiez like Lance focus on me rather than any boxing too..its perfect cuz when I show up the next day to the office I dont think about em...I still get to be an attorney so...Joke ends up bein on idiots like that though cuz what they dont realize is that's really what it is..I really own that title thus they look like the dumb a$$es.

 

Hes not going on Vacation Bro. Pacquiao ducked the fight early 2010 so after beating the lineal champ in Mosley there was nobody else to fight because Pac didnt want to take a blood test.

The only way he does go on vacation again is if Pacquiao doesnt take the blood test, because after Ortiz who else is there really to fight?? Khan?? thats maybe it but he wants Pacquiao likes hes been saying for 2 years

 

ok then i asked you for a simple source where floyd said all of these when he goes to vacation. all i've heard was floyd saying losing his urge. i can give you sources for these but have no source with what you are saying. floyd nevere mentioned the test as the reason why he is taking off. even greenburg never mentioned it.

 

so if you think that greenburg is not talking ****, do you also believe in him that the fight was "close to being made' until floyd decided to take a vacation?

what did floyd said as his reason when he did go to vacation? can you answer this please?

 

Who you gonna believe..... a cross dressing Oscar De La Hoya or Ross Greenburg?

 

the better question is who do these floyd fanboys believes, ellerbe, schaefer and oscar (who recanted his statement) or greenburg and oscar (original statment)?

these fools are still in denial that there is really a negotiation.

 

Do you think I am messing up with you? You really have an IQ of 30 so STFU!!!!


You believe that your bickering is the same with debating.

I would not get caught debating with a moron. It is insulting.

 

When he started coming back from vacation. Mayweather was speaking heavily with the site he normally conducts interviews with. He stated specifically that Pac has never agreed to full random testing ever. Not only did they want a cut off date they wanted to be notified the day that that the testers are coming. He also went on to deny the 100mil demand.

If this was all false and Pac accepted full random testing and the fight was set with Mayweather flat out backing out of the fight then Arum would have been all over Mayweather putting him on blast. There would be no need for Arum to be talking about wanting WADA instead of USADA. No need for Arum to state that he will do all he can to ensure that drug testing will no longer be an issue when/if they negotiate again.

If everything was agreed to already and Mayweather backed out then Arum would just say that and go down the road of them not having to do anything as they already agreed to everything and are just waiting for Mayweather to sign the contract. If Mayweather were to deny it then he could expose him by having the contract drawn up for the public to see Mayweather deny it.

It would be pretty easy to expose Mayweather if Mayweather didn't want the fight and drug testing wasn't a problem. They didn't do any of that because drug testing is probably still the issue.

 

ok fair enough. you are the first one to give a suggested reason why floyd took a vacation when the negotiations are "closed to being made" after he took them. but the questions is, why did floyd took that long and he didn't immediatley explained his vacation reasoning when greenburg had said that negotiations are close to being made?

if floyd really intends to fight late last year, he should have made a statement regarding the negotiations itself or at least a statement expalining why he suddenly doesn't want to fight. do you think so?

 

Greenburg stating that the fight was close to being made doesn't really give us enough detail. As Mayweather vs Pac in the first negotiation was close to being made, yet it was miles apart at the same time. The fight was canceled based off 14 freaking days.

He may have wanted to fight Pac, but he probably wasn't motivated to go through that negotiation drama again at that time. With him wanting no cut off and Pac now wanting 14-7 days. It may have taken months for them to work something out and Arum would have had no problem leaving the table anyway to fight Margarito. Mayweather views himself as the cash cow and all roads lead to Mayweather so he is going to act like he is in control and he can go on vacation because he is the cash cow and Pac needs him.

 

the first negotiation was close as it gets. floyd's camp offered 14 days cut-off while pac's camp offered 24 days cut-off. it's just 10 days separating them and if both really wants it, they could have made it 19 days cut-off.

the 2nd one could be closer, as both dela hoya and greenburg had suggested. dela hoya didn't even recanted his statement until he knew that floyd would rather take a vacation. yes we don't have enough detail since this time, negotiations have media gag order. the thing is, greenburg is negotiating not only with arum but also with haymon. haymon would not negotiate something that would be unfavorable to floyd.

the thing here is both greenburg and oscar already said that the fight was "very close" to being made until floyd took-off. we don't know exactly his reasons but he did say that he has no urge to fight. he also said something that he would take like 1 or 2 years off. it doesn't sound like floyd really wants to fight pacquiao or even anybody soon.

most of the objective floyd fans have admitted that it was floyd himself who doesn't want to fight since he just earned a good amount of money against mosley. but still, some of you thinks that, floyd took his vacation because of the testing issue which floyd never mentioned as the reason why he suiddenly lost his urge.

 

You are putting to much stock on the fight being called close to happening. Mayweather stated clearly after the Mosley fight no cut off or no fight. Then came back from vacation stating the same exact things. The only way for the fight to have been close to happening was either Mayweather was going to waive his no cut off date or Pac was going to agree to full testing. I understand what you are saying about him not saying that, instead saying he doesn't have the urge and denying the negotiation. Its probably the same reason why Arum denied that a 14 day cut off was offered the first time. Pac looked bad for turning down 14 days, Mayweather probably thought he would look bad for turning down 7 days.

Since there is absolutely no reason to believe that either side were willing to do waive there stances on cut off or no cut off. There is no point in putting stock into it. The most realistic scenario that I could think of is that Pac offered 14 days which got denied then Pac went down to 7 days as Konz stated(its possible he went 14,10,7 also). Once that happen Hoya and Greenburg got antsy and probably were looking to convince Mayweather to agree to the 7 days which IMO I think he should have. Just like Pac should have agreed to the 14 days the first time. Then again its also stated that Pac wants to be notified that day before the testers come, this was never confirmed or denied though. Mayweather probably didn't want to budge from the no cut off date, Hoya and Greenburg probably started to try and put pressure on Mayweather to accept the 7 days. Mayweather then decides to leave negotiations and take vacation not liking his talks from Hoya and Greenburg.

If Mayweather agrees to a 7 day cut off in a 3rd negotiation then that would answer our questions about the second negotiation. If Mayweather holds firm on not having a cut off date that also would answer our questions about the second negotiation. But the quote from Arum stating that he will do everythign in his power to ensure the drug testing is not an issue this time around is the most telling on the second negotiation.

 

well i can agree with that hypothetical situation that you've just wrote but the only question here is if floyd does have an issue with the test and he really wants to fight pacquiao in the fall, then he should of mentioned it in his racist video rant instead of just saying the he lot his "urge". by floyd not saying it, it gives the impression that he just doesn't want to fight at all.

 

wow


fukin wow.

i answered it in 45 threads.

FLOYDS REASON WAS SIMPLE
...BECAUSE THE DRUG TESTS WERE NEVER THERE THE FIGHT WAS NOT GOIN TO BE MADE..

HERE LETS DO THIS..

IMA BOUTA OWN THE FUKIN SH!T OUTTA U, U SHOULD JUST SHUT THE FUK UP AFTER I MAKE THIS POINT..

SINCE U SAID THAT FLOYD "SAID THIS AND THAT AND VACATION" (THOUGH U REFUSE TO SEE MY POINTS WHICH RELATE) SO YOUR TAKING HIS FUKIN LITERAL WORDS...

LETS TAKE THESE LITERAL WORDS:hi::hi:

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGbKJuTTPEI[/ame]

TAKE YOUR TIME BRO.

YOU JUST BEEN FUKIN OWNED..

THE FIGHT IS COMING

NEXT ONE CUZ THIS GUY JUST PLAYED RIGHT INTO IT:rofl:roflatschatsch

PERFECT TRAP..

FUKIN BAN YOURSELF... PLEASE CUZ THAT WAS A TRAP SET ABOUT 5-7 POSTS AGO..:hi::hi: