IF Floyd/PAC doesnt happen, how does Floyd surpass PACs ATG status?

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  1. chimba

    chimba Off the Somali Coast Full Member

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    Fight and beat Mosley/Berto winner and beat Williams and thats not a sure thing even if he does it.

    Also, I cant see PAC/Floyd happening

    same way Duran/Pryor. Ray/Pryor didnt happen
     
    chimba, Nov 24, 2009
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  2. Jorodz

    Jorodz watching Gatti Ward 1... Full Member

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    i think in the above scenario he's got a serious shot. if he beats mosley and williams then he's taking on the two most dangerous non pac opponents. that shuts up the critics and gives him some clout in his resume. but you're right, it's no guarantee. **** i don't know if he can do it at this point...
     
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  3. chimba

    chimba Off the Somali Coast Full Member

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    In a way theres the dilemma for Floyd..
    He needs to fight and beat PAC and he can very well do it and he has no choice but to win to have any legacy at all.

    Its a tough reality for the Mayweathers. Beat Pac and may still not surpass him esp if its a boring decision. Lose and Floyd will be remembered less than Winky Wright(who fough and beat some great fighters)

    Team Floyd is thinking how to have a bigger legacy by beating Mosley and then retire but thats not good enough. He needs Williams which Im not sure hed want to fight.

    Its really a dilemma, thats why Sr. is all rattled and ****
     
    chimba, Nov 24, 2009
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  4. Slacker

    Slacker Big & Slow Full Member

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    I would say absolutely the winner of Mosley/Berto

    Then Paul Williams.

    After that, maybe move up to MW and unify.

    The biggest things working against him are:

    1. He's not fighting anyone dangerous to him.

    2. Pac is the only boxer in history win championships in septuple classes. Floyd can't touch that, so he has to figure out something major.
     
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  5. DemolitionDan

    DemolitionDan ATG and HoF Full Member

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    Floyd can surpass Pacquiao if he actually cleans up the Welterweight division (Beating Mosley/Berto, Cotto, and if Paul Williams can make 147 still fight PTP) and then go up to 154 and get a couple of belts and may'be he could pass Pacquiao.
     
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  6. icyhush

    icyhush What's on your mind? Full Member

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    fight the winner of berto/mosley then fight Paul Williams at 154. but i still hope Pac vs Floyd happens.
     
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  7. chimba

    chimba Off the Somali Coast Full Member

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    I think this would do it and if its semi impressive, hed be in SRL/Duran category no denying, yes ahead of PAC. No need for prove himself at 154
     
    chimba, Nov 24, 2009
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  8. psychopath

    psychopath D' "X" Factor Full Member

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    Unify the 147 titles . . . get a 154 title and keep his "0". :deal
     
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  9. Jorodz

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    see the 0 is not that important to me anymore. in fact, I think most people feel the same. if he challenges mosley and williams and beats one and gives a good account of himself in the other, i'll have more respect for him and his resume will be richer for it
     
    Jorodz, Nov 24, 2009
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  10. chimba

    chimba Off the Somali Coast Full Member

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    this is a good point, lets say he loses to williams and then avenged it..thats HUGE!

    He'll get far more credit, thats just how boxing works and historians digs that ****
     
    chimba, Nov 24, 2009
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  11. sdsfinest22

    sdsfinest22 Pound 4 Pound Full Member

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    aka fight Mosley berto winner and take Pac title after Pac retires and than move to 154 and fight and beat PW
     
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  12. DeanoFlash

    DeanoFlash Boxing Addict Full Member

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    delete
     
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  13. Boxing Fanatic

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    If he doesn't fight Pac, it will be the biggest duck of all.
     
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  14. Boom_Boom

    Boom_Boom R.I.P Boxing 6/9/12 Full Member

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    Hes quite a few steps behind Pac ATG wise, he would need to totally clean out welterweight and unify LMW to even debate the two.

    If Floyd wins a middleweight title though, along with everything above, then he surpasses him fo sure.
     
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  15. WhataRock

    WhataRock Loyal Member Full Member

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    I dont think even beating him will put him ahead to tell you the truth.
     
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