If Floyd suffered 1 or 2 early defeats..

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  1. Beenie

    Beenie Evolve already! Full Member

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    .. in his career to unheralded fighters, but still went on to have the same resume of accomplishments that he presently has, how would he be viewed by the boxing world? How would he be viewed by you?
     
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  2. cesare-borgia

    cesare-borgia Übermensch in fieri Full Member

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    Still very highly
     
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  3. Bogotazo

    Bogotazo Amateur Full Member

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    Depends on the kind of loss. I think he might even be more appreciated for it. Either way, he would still be considered one of the best ever.
     
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  4. Peppermint

    Peppermint Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    To me is always about what you accomplish. He could have lost that first Castillo fight on points, hed still be the same fighter unless he let it break him. If he went on to do exactly the same things, it would cgange his ranking at all imo. We would actually know more about him and how he handled a loss.
     
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  5. Beenie

    Beenie Evolve already! Full Member

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    I intentionally did not specify method of defeat because the inference is that the defeat(s) would have had zero residual impact to the remainder of his career.
     
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  6. Touche

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    Quite possibly greater than he is now... I think a Floyd without a "0" would take more risks and we would see what an even better fighter he is against better opposition.
     
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  7. Daruf

    Daruf Boxing Addict Full Member

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    This exactly, hes so afraid to lose his precious 0 he takes very little risk.
    Having a 0 is so overrated.
    Actually if the judges had scored it correctly he would have had a loss to Castillo and avenged it in the rematch and be a better fighter for it now.
     
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  8. ripcity

    ripcity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Still a top P4P fighter and an ATG. All boxers who are considered pound for pound greats are not judged on a cupple of hicups early in their career.
     
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  9. Diggersan

    Diggersan Boxing Addict Full Member

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    why would you care about early losses, I only care about the whole body of work. Show me an undefeated fighter and I will show you someone who is protected.
     
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  10. nastynas

    nastynas Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He'd be much more liked.

    People need to see flaws in order to relate. Rule of Power: Never seem too perfect. In the ring, he's too perfect to be liked.
     
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  11. Beenie

    Beenie Evolve already! Full Member

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    I'm not certain Floyd would be liked more or hated any less merely for having a defeat(s) on his record. The result of a tainted record would have to impact his disposition in some way to get a better response out of people. In other words, if Floyd carried himself exactly the same way with a blemish on his record as he does currently while being undefeated, I don't think it will change his percepcion amongst the the people who already dislike him.
     
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  12. Duck Dodgers

    Duck Dodgers Kimbo #1 P4P Full Member

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    :thumbsup:deal
     
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  13. Whipdatass

    Whipdatass Boxing Junkie banned

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    He'd be viewed as a lesser fighter. Good, but not great.
     
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  14. DDDUUDDDEE

    DDDUUDDDEE Undisputed Ambien (taker) Full Member

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    Exactly the same. An undefeated record is so ****ing overrated.
     
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  15. sadlittleboy

    sadlittleboy Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Finito Lopez?
     
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