If Frank Bruno fought anywhere from the late 1890s-late 1920s he'd be a terror

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  1. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    There I said it. If Bruno as we know him fought in that time period, he'd be remembered for his brutal first round KO's over top rated contenders and being a highly dangerous opponent. There would have been no Tyson's, Lewises or Witherspoons roaming about. Jack Johnson and Jack Dempsey or Gene Tunney if he comes along in the later 20s, would be all that stands in the way of total domination for Franklin Roy Bruno. And don't think that Bruno would be an easy fight for them, either. They'd all have to dig deep in the well.
     
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  2. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    I will let you in on a little secret, that everybody in the UK knew while Bruno was active.

    He was sh1te!
     
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  3. HOUDINI

    HOUDINI Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Bruno was more a Mr Universe than a boxer in reality.
     
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  4. roughdiamond

    roughdiamond Ridin' the rails... Full Member

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  5. Eddie Ezzard

    Eddie Ezzard Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Nobody told Tim Witherspoon or Lennox Lewis. To this day they both rate Frank. Still, whaddathey know?
     
  6. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    They both know that they beat him!
     
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  7. Ken Ashcroft

    Ken Ashcroft Boxing Addict Full Member

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    A top 10, possibly even top 5, greatest h2h British heavyweight ever.
     
  8. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    Bu11 Sh1t!

    While he was active, he was regarded as at best a heavyweight version of Eddie the Eagle, and at worst a national embarrassment!

    He was seen as a lovable loser, and a heroic failure.

    When he finally picked up a strap, everybody was very happy for him, but still surprised!

    The idea that he was ever something special, is a rather weird piece of revisionism, and most surprisingly of all, it comes from outside the UK!
     
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  9. Webbiano

    Webbiano Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    In all fairness I’m of the belief that you took a fighter from a more modern age, with the same training, upbringing & environment etc as a literal specimen that they exactly were, I would sometimes agree, but Bruno seems kind of wrong for this translation. If any of the guys from the early 1900s took him past 12 rounds he may well gas out
     
  10. Webbiano

    Webbiano Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    To be fair, when your claim to fame is going 2 and 5 rounds with Tyson, the latter being post prison Tyson & giving Lennox Lewis a tough fight until he got knocked out halfway through the allotted rounds, it doesn’t say to much about you as a fighter.

    Obviously Bruno was a little bit better than that, but a case can be made that he was just that and that’s the real problem here.
     
  11. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    He was a little less than that to be honest!

    He over performed in those fights, and the winners under performed!

    Outside of that he feasted on tomato cans, and lost whenever he fought a ranked contender!
     
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  12. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    Frank Bruno was as good as Ron Lyle. A good contender. Not a champion.

    I don’t think trying to fit a contender from one era into the position of champion in another era really works.

    The era a fighter is from moulds the fighter they become. If they fall short in that era they fall short not because of the type of fighter that they are but because there simply were better fighters around than they were.

    The guys who become the best heavyweight in the world Always seem to have extra elements about them that the best contenders never do. destiny seems to decide.

    If destiny did not decide in one era I don’t think it will in another.
     
  13. Ken Ashcroft

    Ken Ashcroft Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You seem to be taking all this very personally? What’s the real story here, janitor?
     
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  14. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    Bruno beats Jefferies. Don't @me.

    I can see Bruno beating Johnson, my head just won't let me make him favourite over him though.

    He's mince meat for Dempsey, although is his best win.
    Loses on points to Tunney.
     
  15. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    I live in the UK!

    I suffered repeated disappointments at Bruno's hands, from a very young age!

    Perhaps I never truly got over it!