If Froch beats Johnson and Ward, he'll go down as the greatest British boxer ever...

Not taking the **** here, do you score fights when you go to a fight? normally I get to caught up in the fight and the atmosphere.

 

I was there that night, and can confirm, watching it in the arena, it appeared Froch had won comfortably.

I re-watched it when I got home, Dirrell won by one or two points with one of the bitchiest performances I have ever seen. It happens. Many great fighters have lost to negative fighters that are the lesser of Dirrell.

Froch would have to comfortably beat Johnson and Ward, before decisively beating B-Hop. That would make him a possible top five inclusion (if he did all that I would find it hard to exclude him from the top five)

But Lewis' run was very stellar indeed. Frochy shouldn't get anywhere near that, as it's gonna' be close Saturday and he will not beat Ward IMO.

Even then, could still gon on to surpass Calzaghe. Froch is building a resume with depth, even if he has lost his '0' and had a tough nights work with Dirrell.

 

I manage to do it, and we were tanked up that night admittedly.

But that's why I felt Froch had walked it, even the most objective part of me was hearing the cheers for Carl, and to be honest it appeared Froch was bossing it with his jab.

With the ability to re-watch I could see that of the small amount of punches scored by either fighter, Dirrell, fastier and sharper, landed the clean effective blows.

In a fight that **** I couldn't care less about the result, one couldn't do **** all and ran around aimlessly all night, the other ran around all night and didn't aim to do much.

I then look at what each showed in terms of their attributes. Froch showed he could be outmanouvered by someone with faster feet than himself (no ****) and Dirrell showed some worrying mental signs IMO, his constant holding, falling and negative approach did not bode well for his future IMO.

He of course went on to show similar things in his next fight.

As with Froch, most objective fans know that Ward will be able to similarly outmanouver him, and that Kessler went on to show his limitations on the inside/just inside mid-range, whilst Froch went on to show that against a flat-footed aggressor he could show something more of himself.

In fact, I felt though Dirrell had probably won on second viewing, I also felt I came away with a far lesser opinion of his prospects as a fighter long-term than I did with Froch, who showed he could be outmanouvered by someone willing to consistently be on the backfoot. Amazing, I imagined that would be the cae of a lot of stone-footed offensive fighters. Trinidad and Arguello come to mind. Even Joe Louis. And Froch is nowhere near the level, and part of his problem is that he seems to think he has the dig which can be measured up against those kinda' fighters. And he doesn't, he's an accumulative fighter. His mad bombing style has now been refined into a more measured approach, I'm not sure that the style he implemented against Abraham was not a 'plan B', but the pinnacle of the style he has employed thus far, the fine tuned version.

I don't see him making many more improvements now. It's down to his will and capacity to tough it out which will see him prosper or fall. Against Ward in particularly, he's going to be disarmed and outgunned quickly, but we know Ward probably won;t get him out of there and know 'The Cobra' never gives up, the Championship rounds of the Super Six final with Carl Froch having made it, can you imagine the Herculean effort Ward is going to have to fend off?! :bbb

Isn't it mad when the best consistently fight the best?! The Dirrell fight is pretty much irrelevant IMO, Froch has gone on to redeem himself, and even if he'd lost on points it would've been no biggie (assuming in this hypothetical that he still loses to Kessler, but then beats Abraham on points, Dirrell, injured, and Abraham needing a warm up, Froch goes through to fight Johnson in the semis despite only having two points ;-))

Froch has that self belief where, if Dirrell had been awarded the decision, he'd had moaned about it and dismissed it, and soldiered on. It's crazy that the undefeated Olympian and the durable workhorse have run the gauntlet and look to be on a collision course. Froch has shown his mettle, and earned his right to be called a top-notch fighter by fighting a good run of top fighters, having some close ones, having a los, fighting away from home and bouncing back.

This is what fighters used to be like before they got built up, lost in embarrasing fashion, and never regained their sparkle.

Froch, against all odds, has shown that toughness, determination and a bit of awkwardness can prevail against fighters that have looked more able against poor opposition.

But he's unlikely to achieve the lofty rankings bestowed on him by Eddie Hearn.

 

Talent wise, but Froch has the better resume already.

 

Froch would put a beating on Calzaghe if they were to fight now. In there primes Calzaghe UD

 

My opinion is that H2H Calzaghe at super-middle is nigh on as good as it gets, with few exceptions.

Froch is one of my favourite fighters, but he's not that good a "boxer".

A warrior, yes. A magnificent chin, yes. Heart of a lion, yes. Skillful boxer, not really.

In recent times, where he can't rely on his chin, power and engine to be the sole reasons to overcome his opposition he has fallen slightly short.

His boxing allowed him to make a mockery of Abraham, but Abraham is as one dimensional as they come.

I'll be shouting for Carl, but Ward will take a clear UD but no chance of a KO.

 

I disagree.

Calzaghe beat............

Eubanks
Robin Reid
Bryon Mitchell
Mikkel Kelseer
Jeff Lacy
Sakio Beker
Charles Brewer
Bernard Hopkins
Roy Jones Jnr

 

Yeah - Froch would probaly bash Calzaghe up now.

Joe aint fought since November 2008 - and he is pushing 40 years old.

Let Joe stay in retirement.

 

Defo, 2 good wins there. Good point.

 

I'd like to add that this was written part before ESB going down and part after, I was planning on going on a multitude of tangents but kind of lost my way on the amount of time it took from starting the post to ending it.

 

Posts like this you be a boxing journalist, seriously.

 

:deal

 

Not sure if I'm being complimented or not, but thanks nonetheless :thumbsup

 

It's a compliment mate, you analyze fights and write about them well.

 

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