If Froch beats Ward, where does he rank P4P?

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  1. Jack

    Jack Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    His last seven fights would then be Pascal, Taylor, Dirrell, Kessler (Close loss), Abraham, Johnson and Ward.

    Is there anyone in boxing who has a better run of form than that? He would have a much better streak than Hopkins, Segura, Wonjongkam, Bradley and Wlad, who is a undeserving 5th. Could Froch even go ahead of Marinez and Donaire?
     
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  2. AJ5

    AJ5 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    IMO he lost to Dirrell and since P4P is just opinion where the official result isn't the gospel, I have to take that into consideration. With that said I'd probably put him at 6-7. It also of course depends on how he wins.
     
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  3. cesare-borgia

    cesare-borgia Übermensch in fieri Full Member

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    Its kind of strange if froch wins ring will probably put him at 9-10 but if ward wins he will be like 5/6 as if his resume is so much better.
     
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  4. modestbiggles

    modestbiggles Boxing Addict Full Member

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    he'd certainly be top 5 for me.
     
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  5. W1LLPARK3R

    W1LLPARK3R Well-Known Member Full Member

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    he can't and won't beat ward and he should have lost to dirrell so he only gets props for fighting the best.
    Froch: NOT p4p material...
     
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  6. BumOfTheMonth

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  7. MichiganWarrior

    MichiganWarrior Still Slick! Still Black! Full Member

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    Pretty much everyone on the pound for pound list has been more impressive then Froch.


    Pacquiao, Sergio Martinez, Mayweather, Donaire, Hopkins, Marquez, Wlad ect ect wouldnt need a gift to beat a 17 win prospect who's never been 12 rounds before. None of these guys would be losing to a guy who just came up in weight to score a lucky KO. None of these guys would lose to a Mikkel Kessler level fighter.

    Froch has been more lucky then good. These guys are just good.
     
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  8. taobum70

    taobum70 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Their best opponent H2H was Kessler, Ward beat him clearly, Froch lost. Therefore I would rank Ward higher than Froch right now. However if Froch beats Ward, he should be ranked very well, 7 - 8 IMO.
     
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  9. Bajingo

    Bajingo Boxing Junkie banned

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    :lol:
     
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  10. Henke67

    Henke67 One of the 45% Full Member

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    I have Froch on my top 10 already and a win over Ward would elevate him another few spots.
     
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  11. Jack

    Jack Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I agree about Pacquiao, Martinez, Mayweather, Donaire and Marquez. Hopkins though? He drew once against a guy Froch beat and lost twice to a guy Froch stopped.

    However, P4P is not solely based on performances. Whether you look amazing or ****, a win is a win and is recorded as such. Froch has shown more intangibles than any of the guys above because he doesn't have the natural talent or size that they do. Which is more important? talent or heart? I don't think any is more important than the other.
     
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  12. Arran

    Arran Boxing Junkie banned

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    remember when you inbred backwards americans said that about calzaghe when he was set to fight lacy?
     
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  13. Beatle

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    Of course he goes ahead of Martinez and Donaire! Those guys are famous for beating two guys. Froch has beaten many great fighters.
     
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  14. PBFred

    PBFred Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I'd have no problem sliding him in the 7 spot behind the obvious top 6. I think Ward takes this convincingly though.
     
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  15. Post Box

    Post Box I'm back too, bitches Full Member

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    He's already just about scraped into my top 10. top 5 for me
     
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