If Froch beats Ward

No if Froch beats Ward it won't count because Ward was untested or something.

 

English fighter P4P number 3?

Have you lost your mind?

 

Ward isn't near any real boxing fan's P4P lists.

Froch is in most balanced people's top ten on merit.

Froch stops Ward, schools the cheating little ****er, and america forgets who he ever was and jumps on the next hypetrain.

(see Kelly Pavlik, Chad Dawson, etc)

 

I like both fighters, but if Dirrel was able to give Froch a tough fight without throwing many punches, I don't see how he wins against Ward. Froch needs to be worried about old man Johnson before he even thinks about Ward.

 

I say yes. You can make a case that Froch got robbed in the Kessler fight but i thought Dirrell beat Froch. But in any case if Froch wins this tournament, he should be in the top 3 p4p cause look at his resumes, it be wins over Pascal, Taylor, Dirrell, Abraham, Johnson, Ward. <<<That's a better resume then Pacquiao.

 

I don't even like Froch, but if he beats Ward than he definitely deserves to be at #3.

 

Nope because then the notion will be that Andre Ward was just an overhyped bum.

 

How does beating a guy outside the top five place you at #3?

 

absolutely not

people rank Ward in top 5?

 

Last time i looked that was a close fight, cant be classed a robbery:good

 

There are (or should be) two elements to determining if someone is a top P4P fighter: 1)Resume and 2)Ability/talent. IMO, you need both to be considered a top P4P fighter. Froch has the resume at this point, no doubt. But he lacks the ability and talent to be considered a truly great fighter.

It's sorta like how Marciano isn't really on anybody's Top 10 HW list despite being the only one to retire undefeated. Sometimes you can tell greatness just by looking at it. You look at, say, Calzaghe and the way he operates in the ring and you see greatness. You look at Froch and, sadly, you do not. That is why he won't be making any P4P lists.

In a way, Froch has benefitted as much stylistically throughout his career as Abraham. And as soon as the Abraham blueprint was released and a lineup of fighters who could follow it emerged, Abraham was finished. I get the same sense with Froch, that Dirrell also put together the blueprint to beat him, and that defensively-oriented boxer with a lot of movement could best Froch outside of England.

 

Yeah jones v si-hun was a robbery!

Diaz v malignaggi etc etc deffo NOT Kessler v froch! However froch DID beat Kessler that night IMO

 

they should look at the Ring's top ten, no sight of Ward to make an arguement

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