If Froch wins the Super Six series... does his legacy surpass Calzaghes?

I scored to Hopkins at the time, and watched it again a couple of days later and scored it to Hopkins again. I just personally prefer quality, cleaner punches rather than just sheer workrate or volume. Workrate does nothing for me if they're not all landing or legally scoring blows.

It's nothing against Calzaghe personally. Even if he did officially lose to Hopkins, it certainly wouldn't be a stick to beat Joe with, as I wouldn't consider it a disgrace at all. Hopkins is my favourite fighter and I rate him very, very highly so picking on Joe for losing to him would have no meaning. It just meant he lost to an exceptional fighter of our time who I consider an ATG. No shame in that.

 

No shame at all.

Hopkins is my favourite active fighter by the way, I'd love to see how him Dawson pans out.

 

^ That would be a great fight also but it seems HBO are more keen on a Hopkins Adamek fight.

 

Last I heard, Hopkins wasn't boxing again. But as with everything in this sport, things can change by the minute.

 

I've heard both and both should be interesting fights.

It's not beyond the realms to think we could have a RJJ-Hopkins unification fight at 200.

That'd be a good way for both to bow out.

Trouble is I can't see Hopkins wanting to knock it on the head if Dawson is still dominant at 175.

 

Hopkins will fight again but I am a little disappointed he hasn't taken a fight yet, just to keep him ticking over, like he said he would. He was awesome last time out (I was there) and I'm sure the long lay off before the Calzaghe fight didn't help. I know he had his heart set on a JC rematch early this year but he should have taken an interim bout once JC announced his retirement in my opinion. Who am I question the man though? Lol.

 

Froch wins this. he's lightyears ahead of joe already, let alone what he goes onto after it,

No way in a million years Calzaghe would have taken part in this tourny anyway so froch deserves more respect for that alone

 

If this Tourney had happened for Calzaghe, it would have involved Kessler, Lacy and Veit as equivalant fighters.

Calzaghe has beaten better fighters (bar Kessler of course) than Froch will even face here, just out of a tourney format.

Winning this tornament alone would not make him greater than Calzaghe, unless he won all fights by 1st round KO

 

ha ha ha ha Veit

 

Jeff, you are obsessed with Joe Calzaghe this thread has proved it without doubt.

Please someone enlighten me here. Who has Froch beat worth mentioning? Taylor is his best win and he got totally outboxed for most of the fight and only won because of Taylor's notorious stamina issues.

His next best win is over an average title holder in Pascal who he also was in trouble against.

 

Perhaps. I can see Hopkins challenging Froch if Froch were to win the tourney.

 

surely we will not know what sort of legacy that froch leaves until he retires?

i have followed froch since his first fights and have seen many of his bouts live,he's created a great fan base in nottingham.i believe that he go's about his business in a professional manor,alot of people tend to see his confidence as arogance.in boxing how can you have one without the other?
if he wins the tourney,and i believe he can (though it will not be a breeze!),then he has probably been gifted the best progress package in the sport,which will go some way to creating a legacy which may surpass joe's.
froch may only have a short reign as champion,but lets make the most of him whilst he is.:good

 

How the **** has Carl beaten better fighters domestically than Calzaghe?

Calzaghe beat Eubank, prime Reid and Woodhall, who the **** has Carl beat? The shell of Robin Reid and Brian Magee...christ.

I'm disapointed in some of your postings on Calzaghe, you have no semblance of perspective at all when it comes to this subject.

 

It's hard to weigh it up fairly. I would say that if Carl wins the tournament (and all his fights in it) he would have come close to matching Calzaghes achievements. That's my opinion anyway.

 

That has nothing to do with the statement I was responding to, which was 'Carl has already beaten better fighters than Calzaghe dometically'. Which is a pure horse **** statement, with no basis in reality.

Of course if Froch goes on and wins this thing he'll have a strong case.