If Froch wins the Super Six series... does his legacy surpass Calzaghes?

I agree with how you phrase it here more than your absolute phrasing before.

Jones arguably gets more credit for the win over Hopkins than he should, for example, because of the fighter that Hopkins turned out to be. But there's no doubt that the win does rank above others that may have appeared comparable at the time.

If Kessler dominates everyone in the super six, it could show a massive step up on his part or it could equally merely serve to highlight what a good fighter he already was.

The trouble is that a lot of people on both sides will choose which of the two they believe based on their own agenda more than a valid judgement call.

 

The Pavlik thing specifically annoys me though because Joe could have taken that fight himself and got more credit for it but instead he left the 43 year old legend to do the business while he got on with his joke money fight. Then you get all the Calzaghe fan boys claiming some kind of moral victory even though Joe was not interested in a rematch which Hopkins probably deserved.

 

Seems like the WBO title is a world title when you want it to be, but not when you don't. Curious thing to make a distinction on. We're giving Froch extra credit now for not 'moving up to world class' until 31?

 

If Frcoh's wins it, then perhaps from a H2H perpsective Froch would surpass Calzaghe!

However, we cannot discount Joe's longevity, his title defenses! Whoever wins the SMW tournament should be given massive props. Each & every guy participating are in their prime or have still yet to reach their peak! No one is past it or shot!

Jermain Taylor is not shot by the way & I think he will surprise a few people by how well he does! I'm not saying he will win, but people completely discount him out of all the guys!

 

atsch

 

Froch equaled JC when he beat Taylor so him beating anyone in super 6 will surpass Calzaghe. Only problem is that the Welsh have a better publicity machine than folk froom Nottingham.

 

Now that is a pile of ****.

 

Hater.

Is that the same Eubank who lost 3 of his previous 5 before Joe?

Or was it the Eubank that lost 2 on the spin straight after Joe?

I know the Eubank your referring too.... all of the above !

And is that the same all-conquering Woodhall who'd lost a few times already (by ko) and then immediately turned it in after fighting Joe?

Your right about Reid though... so tell me, after Reid beat him in many people's eyes, why didn't he rematch him, despite everyone clamouring for it?

Because he's a joker.

They only got Reid in because he matched the blueprint: AKA former champion, coming off a defeat to a pedestrian Malinga.

You need to study up sunshine, you really do.

atsch

 

Yep. Sure does our sheep no favours.

 

Reid
Kessler
Hopkins
Lacy - The one that destroyed Reid before Joe ruined him
Eubank (even past it Eubank is better than Pascal for sure)

Kessler would destroy Taylor especially at 168 pounds. I'd also fancy Prime Reid to take him all the way as well as past it Eubank.

At least 5 Calzaghe victories are greater than the only 2 decent wins on Froch's resume.

As far your domestic level argument, total and utter bollocks just like TFFP said. (but I don't really believe that you believe that nonsense).